Sunday, January 11, 2015

Legislator: Shooting victim didn't call the police so all is well


PAVLIC
Everything in Troy is political. Everything. If someone on the Council sneezes – or doesn’t sneeze, someone cries foul, creates a Facebook page and then threatens to run them out of office.
The shooting Sunday at Kokopellis is no different, and social media has been abuzz about it almost to the frenzy it was in the weeks following the infamous Jan. 25 2014 melee. An unarmed black man was shot allegedly by the one of the bar’s owners Joe Glick, according to sources. Police expect to charge Glick by mid-week.
Political opponents are quick to point out that Council President Rodney Wiltshire was critical of the police in the aftermath of the melee and Councilman Bob Doherty accompanied the owners at a hearing in front of the State Liquor Authority. As far as I know, the councilmen have been silent on the latest episode.
But, Legislator Gary Pavlic, D-Troy, also defended the bar during the Public Safety Committee hearings and he wasn’t quiet. He defended the bar on Facebook, telling others in the threat about how he used to go to the bar and never had any problems.
At one point he took a veiled shot at the police, saying he used to wave at them while they sat in their cars at the bank parking lot located near the bar. One of the Glicks complaints was that police were harassing their clientele and scaring away businesses.  
Pavlic, during a debate on Facebook said: “It’s been closed since Jan. 1. The even last night was a private farewell party by invitation only. This would not be a story if one of the attendees did not call after everything was over and done with. The person who was shot is fine and did not call police as far as I understand.”
Rather than worry about the shooting of an unarmed black man, Pavlic said: “Onto using our energy to improve our beautiful city!!!”
Must be a new take on the the whole “If you see something say something,” which is the mantra of Homeland Security and about every neighborhood watch program in the nation.  Following Pavlic’s lead, this new philosophy of citizen activism is more along the lines of “no harm, no foul …” or at least “no bad harm, no foul.”
Come to think of it, there was more of a stink made when the police allegedly used excessive force against an unarmed black man in the same bar almost a year ago. The FBI investigated and found they did not. Maybe, if this unarmed black man had been killed, Pavlic would take more of an interest.


 

 

46 comments:

  1. Pavlic you are an ass! So Glick should just get away with it because the guy didn't call the police?? Are you out of your mind?? What is it with you and this bar, seriously! You have another reason for defending this shithole that we don't know about???

    Next time you're up for election-- Glick, Glick, Boom! Unseated and out of office!

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    1. Oh Fitzy. Getting bored with the mall cop gig?

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  2. Okay... I've not been on Facebook much but this is one I really am having trouble dealing with... I don't know where on-line the Facebook debate was, but I do trust that Jim has a credible source of information for the story. I am shocked that a County Legislator would publicly support the non-reporting of a shooting in a local (non) business. You can claim "private farewell party" all you want, but this establishment was closed pending state and city sanctions for violence, disorder and serving to minors. Add it all up and make up your own mind on how much you appreciate an elected official supporting the purveyors of chaos and criminal activity... 1) a private party a week after they've announced their closing (at the fault of police brutality) 2) a shooting within the premise with no call to police, just a covert run with the victim to the emergency room 3) a firearm... somewhere... loaded; legally possessed? 4) lack of cooperation from the business owners on the investigation; search warrant needed to get the goods.
    I've been at the Public Safety Committee hearings and heard Mr. Pavlic speak of the "good times' he's had at Kokopelli's.I've watched hours of video showing the complete disregard of the business to maintain a safe environment for their clientele. I was sickened by the anti-police comments by Mr Pavlic at the hearings and to the media. These are the people we elect to provide the legislation allowing the maintenance of the safety and security of our families, our homes... our dreams? My perspective on this is clear... Gary should be penning his resignation letter as we speak (or read!). it's weird to call him Gary... or Mr. Pavlic; but I don't feel comfortable honoring him with the official title of County Legislator. It may have fit before, but it just isn't a good match for you right now. If this posts as anonymous... signed: John Cooney

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  3. That's the thanks you get for going to bat for someone these days.

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  4. This is a perfect example of why Troy is done. It's not just that a turd like this is elected, he represents perfectly the turds that fill Troy and elected him.

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  5. Any truth to the rumor that Pavlic was there when the shooting occurred?

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    1. I'm willing to wager with Vinny Vegas that he was there. I think there is more to his connection to Kokopelli's than meets the eye. Where there is smoke there is fire, if we dig down deep enough I'm sure we'll find the proof. @ Jim you should investigate into that a bit more.

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  6. It's just like when Wheland said to council on water snd sewer figures being off. He said that residents are conserving more on water so we aren't making any profit. Jesus. Residents aren't here for the City to profit from financially. What an asshole.

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  7. The big bad police "over policing" yet again! Who amongst us hasn't shot someone at a private gathering? Pavlic is right.. this is all blown out of proportion.. Geez.. he didn't die or anything..
    Kokopellis is obviously an honorable place.. the owners even carry weapons to ensure everyone remains safe
    Rensselaer County needs legislators like Kokopellis needs a new liquor license.. which is to say.. NOT AT ALL.. waste of our money

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  8. Thank God we have DA Abelove and his crackerjack team of patronage hacks to investigate. Just yell "Cleanup in Aisle 8"

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  9. Pardon me for being cynical, but is the handgun registered and does Glick have a pistol permit ?

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  10. Another reason to Vote Row A.

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  11. WHATWOULDGARYGORDONDO?

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    1. Nothing. He's jobless

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  12. "Pavlic, during a debate on Facebook said: “It’s been closed since Jan. 1. The even last night was a private farewell party by invitation only. This would not be a story if one of the attendees did not call after everything was over and done with. The person who was shot is fine and did not call police as far as I understand.”

    Hey Gary Shut the fuck up and get back in the closet. When a person shows up at the hospital with a gunshot wound the hospital is supposed to contact the police. If it were a cop that did the shooting you would be leading the march, but because no cops were involved in the shooting its OK?

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  13. If someone comes to the hospital with a bullet wound, doesn't the hospital have to report it? The Glicks are garbage, stay out of my city losers.

    And I cannot wait to vote against Pavlic in November.

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  14. Gary's response on FB about Kokopellis

    Gary Pavlic It was always safe when I was there which was often!

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  15. Where's Jack Mahar these days? Heard the GOP has him tied up in Jimino's basement

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  16. He's all about colnel pawling and nothing to do with colnel lingis

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  17. Mahar has no one to primary him because no one can beat him.

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    1. Correction: ANYONE can beat Mahr the no show sheriff.

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    2. Who? The Dems can only win in the city not in the county and the Republicans don't have anyone to challenge him in a primary.

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  18. Mahar will have no primary and if he does he wins.

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    1. A rhesus monkey could beat Jack Mahar.

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  19. I wonder if Mr. Pavlic is the one who has been preventing their illegal hookah business from being shut down. According to the NYS indoor air act, it is illegal for a business to have smoking of tobacco where food and/or alcohol is served, yet the county has never fined them nor shut them down for doing such.

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  20. Fuck Marhar and all you keyboard assassin jail guards posting Stick to the post. And this Pavlic guy seems like a real twerk-off.

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    1. Pavlic twerks alright.

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    2. Yea on the 3rd floor of kokopellis.

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  21. Jim, for Christ's sake get your head out of McCashion's ass

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  22. Pavlov will be elected in landslide again. always vote democrat, docent matter who is running

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    1. 8:09 you drank the kool-aid didn't ya. Pavlic is not getting my vote.

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    2. Congrats on graduating 3rd grade 8;09. I wish you well with Genometry next year.

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    3. Pavlov's Dog? Signed GED

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  23. Jay vandenburgh. Czar of zoning. At large 2016. Next council prez

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  24. Mike Hayner makes $720 a week in overtime. You all good with that?

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    1. Nope, he is one miserable pain in the ass.

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  25. A little off subject but why does Schenectady have a population of over 60K and Troy over 40K yet Schenectady has 4 fire stations and 120 firemen (11 square miles) yet Troy has 6 stations and 134 firemen (11square miles) ? Who's got some balls?

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    1. Troy has 112 firefighters when at a full compliment. They are currently 3 firefighter vacancies. Troy also runs its own ambulances (3) that are revenue generators and require a minimum of 2 firefighters each. Those firefighters also jump to (staff) other fire apparatus when a fire call comes in.

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  26. No story about new DA and dropping charges against Crist?

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    1. No bill dunne. But doo. To be story about u in stripes and I'm not talking about the Bill Murray flick

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    2. Peter ryan. Is that you?

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  27. When will the administration of Troy, or the City Council, have the intestinal fortitude to seriously drill down and examine the pension padding of overtime that everyone knows is taking place?

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