Monday, June 9, 2014

More on the Democratic Party Committee battle



WADE (Times Union photo)
It’s not a complete house cleaning but Rensselaer County Democratic Party Chairman Tom Wade is getting rid of “dead weight” and those deemed “disloyal” to the party.
 
As reported, when the petitions forms for committee members were handed out last week, they did not include the names of Council President Rodney Wiltshire, his wife Jolene or Councilman Ken Zalewski, D-District 5.
They also didn’t include three family members of Brian Premo - a long time attorney and Democrat who also has had his differences with Wade - for their committee seats in Brunswick.
The Wiltshires and Zalewski, however, will not be “bullied by the chairman," according to their camp, and are preparing to wage primaries. While Wade did not say he would follow through, he does have the option of assigning a committee to hold hearings to determine if they should permanently get thrown out of the party for disloyalty.
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The way it works, though, is that a committeeman can run in any Election District located within the Assembly District in which they live so it’s kind of difficult to see who will run against who until the petition process is complete.
Anyway, disloyalty, according to Wade, includes Zalewski’s support of Republican Councilman Dean Bodnar, R-District 3, over Democrat Michelle DeLair in last year’s election and Wiltshire’s acceptance of the Independence Party line - which helped him oust Councilwoman Lynn Kopka,a party loyalist, as president. Since the Independence Party is controlled at the local level by the GOP, Wade claims Wiltshire made a deal and gave Republicans appointments in return for the party’s nod.
The “dead weight” claim stems from Wade’s contention that the Premos do not show up to committee meetings and do little or no work for the party.  
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Also, two years ago, Wiltshire, Zalewski and Premo worked for Robert “Rabbit” Riley in an unsuccessful effort to oust Wade as chairman.
The way it works, according to Wade, is that the town chairs throughout the county and council district leaders in Troy recommend names of those party members they would like to see serve on their respective committees. Wade maintains he is only following those recommendations.
Control of the committee is important in that the committee picks the chairman and ultimately has control who the party endorses. Zalewski is term limited out, but Wiltshire does have political ambitions past the Troy Council and one option is obviously mayor.
If Wade is not supporting Wiltshire for committee, it stands to reason Wiltshire is not his top pick for mayor should Mayor Lou Rosamilia opt not to run for another term. Actually, it would be difficult to see Wade supporting him for another run at Council.
Wade said the party is also shaking up committees in Grafton, East Greenbush and Hoosick but denied there is an all-out house cleaning in Troy as evidenced by the party carrying petitions for former Troy Councilman Mike LoPorto and operative Tom Aldrich in Troy, Charles “CB” Smith in North Greenbush and Phil Malone in East Greenbush. All of whom have had their differences with Wade.
In other words, the war is on and it should be a good one. Wade has been through them before and is not without his support on the committee and Wiltshire and Zalewski are two proven vote getters and popular in the city.  

Given the discord within the Democrats, though, its most powerful weapon remains the complete lack of a Republican Party in the City of Troy.

166 comments:

  1. Did Wade make a deal with Jimino not to run a candidate against her or Merola in the last two elections?

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    1. You are so clueless. But it's entertaining.

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    2. Probably did because Merolas kids all got city and county jobs without experience

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  2. Why is Tom Wade listing his address on petitions as Highpointe when he lives on 5th Av. I'm a committeeman who thinks Wade should step down as chairman if he is going to lie about his address. Makes me wonder what else is he lying about?

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    1. I don't know were Tom Wade lives but if you're asking him to step down cause he may be lieing you should be demanding Lou, Pete, Dunne, Kopka and Garrett all step down also. There's no "may" be lieing, they lie as easy as they breath.

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    2. It's spelled lying, genius.

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    3. I agree with that! I asked about addresses in March in a FOIL and still no info they say it's invasion of privacy. Bullshit it is especially when it's a contingency of employment. LOU you need to audit all City Employees and their current residency, you PROMISED that you wouldn't hire or keep employees that job requirements included living here in Troy. THIS is the easiest task for you to do,have all employees submit a copy of their mortgage,lease,utility bill to you immediately(of course they need to have it notarized..which is FREE at any bank)and submit it to your office.unfortunately you will be saddened by how many employees personnel has chosen NOT to abide by your policy.They even helped them move recently outside of the City.

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    4. To speak at a council meeting you have to list your address. To be a Commissioner of Deeds you have to list your address, but theirs are "invasions of privacy". Pathetic. Its all to get out of the residency restrictions. Its disgusting how all of these people have say over Troy-- but won't live there themselves.

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    5. Even on FOILS ..they are suppose to be OPEN on furnishing information..they are NOT complying...I would love to hear other residents opinions on how they the residents of Troy have to try and make ends meet and cut back on things to pay for the tax increases but yet a good percentage of the City's employees don't...

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    6. "I agree with that! I asked about addresses in March in a FOIL and still no info they say it's invasion of privacy"

      At least they didn't blatantly lie and say it was lost because a hard drive failed.

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    7. If they did I would have them put that in writing and notarized by someone else than a city of troy employee

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  3. Wade wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him in the mouth.

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  4. Mr. Wade you seem to have a double standard when it comes disloyalty. And who gives a rat's ass if Troy is rustling the feathers of "surrounding" towns and villages...the energy should be focused on Troy

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  5. Can anyone start a petition to remove Wade?

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    1. This is Troy politics, there is no integrity.

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  7. I would have to question Mr Wade on just what party he IS chairman of.
    T he person is right when they say he has not run a candidate for major county races in twelve years.I say WADE FOR REPUBLICAN COUNTY CHAIRMAN.

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    1. shouldn't he be held for treason? He supported Carmella for at large.

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    2. And would you prefer he ran losers like CB Smith, La Posta et.al. to embarrass the Democratic Party ? Wade seems to have a practice of not wasting money on candidates who can't win.

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  8. What has this council done?

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    1. *crickets chirping*

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  9. Fear makes the cowards lash out it seems

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    1. Indeed. The anti-Wades and Rodney supporters are angry people. Powerlessness will do that to you.

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    2. Unfortunately bribery and money is what makes them powerful. Poor qualities in what is running our City.Go back to doing the right things and following policy..then the true contender will stand out...until then corruption and favoritism will continue...if you are a resident of Troy and fed up with the same ole same ole vote all these crooks out

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    3. You have proof?

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    4. Sure there is proof. Although I can understand one or two family members working for the City but the whole family? I looked over the City's Payroll and expenditures and there is proof of the conflicts of interest and this information is available to anyone just contact DiNapoli

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    5. Whose family has more than one or two members on the taxpayer payroll? Other than Harry Tutunjian's, of course.

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    6. Mahoney, McGrath,Hart,Skiba,Ruffinen...want me to go on?

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    7. That's proof of bribery?

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    8. Family business doing work for the City in return for hiring their relatives,friends,etc.

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    9. That's proof of nepotism

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  10. Please list one thing rodney or ken have accomplished. I'm waiting. Bueller. Bueller

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    1. They have been there for the City residents in time of need. They respond before all the other quacks do.

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    2. *crickets chirping*

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    3. Kenny got us our Verizon FiOS like he promised, he freed us from the Time Warner monopoly!

      Oh wait... no he didn't.

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    4. Let's give Kenny Z an "E" for effort for writing pages and pages of overwrought condescending bullshit on facebook and twitter to make it look like he actually does something.

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  11. Will Wade act to remove Mark Pattison and Joe Manupella from his party too?After all, they consistently endorsed Joe Bruno against and sometimes to prevent any Democratic opponent. I don't recall Wade ever complaining each time they did this over many years.

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  12. I liked him better when he was a drunk!

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  13. Its actually funny to see all this childish behavior. All of these people are suppose to follow this guys lead like he is the end all. Laughable, your no Fat Ed Tom Wade!

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  14. Rodney for Mayor on the Republican line! He is a reasonable man, great education and from what I see an honest guy. That would be cool for Troy, we never have had that! Well except for John Buckley and he also was an Engineer. Bring on Rodney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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    1. Rodney has the pompous attitude of a Republican. you have a good idea 4:37

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    2. For a smart guy, he sure is dumb.

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  15. You have to read Tom Wade's letter from 2007 when the Spain's tried to remove county committee members for "disloyalty". Not only did he spank them but his Executive Committee voted against the attempt as well as the whole county committee. I guess it's wrong to remove party members for disloyalty unless they are disloyal to the county chairman's views. Hopefully Tom Wade will read his more responsible positions from 2007 and not allow himself to become the same reckless and intolerant person he properly rallied against in 2007. Read his letter here:http://northgreenbushpipeline.blogspot.com/2014/06/casino-courage-and-democrats-tent.html

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    1. Keep trying CB. You haven't won a battle yet---except for the time you locked yourself in your car and left your wife and daughter exposed to the so called raging maniac who was ranting at you.

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  16. so this is why all the irrelevant people on this blog have been saying Rodney won't get the D-line. WOW. That's hilarious. They think they can actually pull a McCarthy, what they don't know is that McCarthyism is very much dead. Although, humor is not lost on the fact that wade is trying to kick out the only gay elected on this side of the river, and one of only two African American elected on this side of the river....I wonder how that narrative will be written. The irony is that Wiltshire and Zalewski swore an oath to be loyal to the party...not to the corrupt chairman...seems when wade doesn't get his way, he gets intimidated.

    This is all about the mayoral race next year, this is wade's only shot at taking Rodney out at the knees so he doesn't attempt to take out Lou. It's getting interesting.

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    1. The irrelevant people on this blog are Rodney supporters, not Wade supporters.

      Ken Z is not the only openly gay elected official on this side of the river. Nice try though.

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    2. He's not? Well then he must be the only cute gay official because I haven't heard of another..who is the other...I'll vote for them all..the city needs more diversity...

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    3. So they're not as attractive as Ken and one maybe doesn't twerk at Kokopellis. Some of us aren't on the continual stroll. You're an insult to true diversity.

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    4. There are TWO more in Troy.

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    5. Didn't mean for cute, dont even know how that got typed in.I think the issue is the current administration is NOT diverse when it cones to having city officials that are gay or black and they openly admitted it before. There is a ton of racism in the City,I hear the comments everyday. Two more what in Troy? Gay or black candidates? Who cares as long as they want to do the best for the City and cut all this crap that's been going on for decades let them do their job.that's who we want.It beats having another mother,father,sister,brother,cousin,friend of the mafia working the City..these people don't care about the City they just want their own in....and that is not being diverse

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    6. Are you brain damaged? What color is Anastasia? Considering the council has only nine members, it's ALREADY diverse in terms of race, gender, and sexual orientation. Stop whining like an old lady.

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    7. 3:14 Stop whining Irreverend Tim, we know you have a thing for Ken Z. Diversity? Please-- what we don't have are ones that are actually qualified to sit in those chairs. These are Wade's picks for the most qualified, Troy can do better. On paper we have diversity, in reality we have ones who vote or open their mouths until they are told to vote and speak. Puppets.

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    8. On paper we have diversity, in reality we have ones who vote or open their mouths until they are told to vote and speak. Puppets.

      Best post in 15 years

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    9. Or the ones that vote,open their mouths and get told by the Mayor to mind your own business

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  17. One huge Irony is the difference in this party to what is loyal and what is considered treason. Bill Mcinerny--loyal, Mayor Pattison- Loyal, Michele Delair-loyal (donated to several republicans), Frank Laposta-loyal, BUT Wiltshire-treason.

    Only denominator here is that Wiltshire is threatening Wade's power. I guess that's treason.

    Does not compute.

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    1. I hate to disagree but I have letters from city council people and committee people saying I was disloyal. Just to set the record straight I was not one of Tom Wade"s favorites.

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    2. Yes, but you were disloyal. Your kinship with Mirch not only shows your disloyalty and after the way he helped crush you against Tutunjian and then embarrassed you with his post election shenanigans shows your complete foolishness.

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    3. Don't flatter your inflated ego Rodney. Wade is not threatened by you. He knows where the votes are when he runs and there's not a majority in Troy.
      If he was intimidated by you or Zalewski, do you think he would be exhibiting the balls to take you two phonies off the party committee ?

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    4. Threatening Wade's power? Here's a tip. Making threats doesn't necessarily make you threatening.

      Rodney and Ken-- because of course we know you read this blog faithfully-- here's some big boy advice. It doesn't matter how smart, articulate, and photogenic you are, if the people who matter don't like you, you are done. The lone wolf doesn't survive long in politics. If you insult fellow Dems, collude with the Republicans, try to embarrass your party, try to embarrass an administration that has tried to work with you just to score political points, and generally act like an imperious spoiled child, your remaining support will evaporate. The fact that this seems to surprise and upset you shows how egocentric and immature you really are.

      Feel free to petition, have clandestine meetings, stomp your feet, give away tacos, do circle twerks with Premo, or whatever it is you think you need to do to take over the committee and oust Wade. It won't change anything, because while you have the support of a band of motley misfits, you don't have the support of the people who have credibility and influence. You alienated them all. Wade won't be the one to take you down. You'll do it to yourselves.

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    5. 549, he sure would, it's called bullying, workplace bullying,runs rampant in the City ask Bill Chamberlain, his bullying gets him everywhere,not to mention he's another one who doesn't follow policies but yet Lou allows it.

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    6. I wish Frank LaPosta would run for mayor. Bring back the whole crowd, they were better than this incompetent crew.

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    7. Frank LaPosta got about six votes when he ran for council in his home district. And you think he can win a mayoral race?

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    8. @ 7:00pm thanks bill, but the only people who matter in this equation are voters. And wade does not control the vote. Obviously the voters have spoken and Rodney is CC President. Deal with it.

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    9. Bill Chamberlain has survived 33 years how many people got trampled bullied and fired set up etc etc etc for him to stay in city hall

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    10. I thought chamberlain was a cop?no? How did he pull that guy over lights and sirens a few years back then?

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    11. He beat them with a log...oh no wait...that's his son

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    12. 549, he sure would, it's called bullying, workplace bullying,runs rampant in the City ask Bill Chamberlain, his bullying gets him everywhere,not to mention he's another one who doesn't follow policies but yet Lou allows it.

      Second best post in 15 years
      Bill is a wanna be cop
      His son was only emulating his father the apples don't fall far from the tree

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  18. Awww...Yeah well I know quite a few people who more than qualify for,PAID MONEY to take an exam with the City of Troy, qualified for the exam/position via application that has to be completed... only to have you and the Civil Service Commission choose a NonResident for positions in the City of Troy that have relatives do business with the City...conflict of interest ...in addition to fraud...

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    1. Don't forget Frank sat on the civil service board when they used a one time rule of residents get picked before non-residents on the firefighters test regardless of score. Were they trying to reach somebody?

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    2. I thought PAID city employees couldn't be on the Civil Service Commission.I thought that was a conflict if interest

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  19. At least he is not supporting Mahar for Sheriff

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    1. Sheriff Mahar, that bad bad boy. He's the Bill Dunne of the Rensselaer County GOP.

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  20. to: June 10, 2014 at 2:07 PM
    You're right, Ken isn't the only gay elected official on this side of the river. However, Wade also screwed him over IF you remember correctly. Wade also wanted Chappy, Mike and Kevin to step down as Councilman while NOT asking Gary to step down. What does that tell you? It reeks of Wade being able to control Gary but not the others.

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    1. Exactly how did Wade screw over Gary Pavlic?

      Chappy and Mike weren't asked to step down from the council. Chappy chose not to seek re-election after he was indicted and Loporto ran and lost by a landslide.

      And if you can't figure out why Wade wanted Mcgrath to resign then you're truly hopeless. Forget about control, he was just an embarrassment and mistake from day one.

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    2. Chappy stepped down after total dick knobs went after his elderly father because he earned 100 more a month for housing. Which by the way COULD have been looked over due to the state of the economy..people were just pure assholes for going after a senior citizen.....I know a city employees whose father was a part of welfare fraud and republicans were covering up for him luckily the man died so no one got to actually prove it

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    3. This is all about the MIGHTY McGrath family and the mud thrown on them by Wade. Only problem is that when the MIGHTY McGrath family tried to float there holy art thou bullshit is when the truth about Kevin "Fredo" McGrath came out so what does aI fine person like Kevin and his classless brother Ed do they blame wade.

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    4. Its not about Wade against the McGraths, Wade throws no mud against Pat McGrath, he deserves the support he gets. But Kevin is no pat McGrath. Even anti Wade people think Kevin is a joke. He dug his own grave with the party and the voters.

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  21. Brian Premo is not a Democrat

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    1. But he plays one on TV

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  22. Dunne being questioned by fitzy. Oh boy

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  23. Don't know whats worse. The FB pic of bill dunnes toes and peanut bitter dot bobby cox surfing 40 years ago

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    1. The fact you are stalking their FB pages is worse.

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    2. dear AnonymousJune 10, 2014 at 8:02 PM you couldn't find your ass&&ole with a GPS and a compass
      FB is a good place to write you letter before you commit suicide

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    3. Facebook is public you snotrag

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  24. These comments against Wade are humorous. He's the one with proven record of leadership of his party . Still waiting for Kenny and Roddy to show something other than ego.

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    1. What has Wade done?

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  25. How does Wade not asking Gary to step down screw Ken?

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  26. I agree with anonymous

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  27. I'd like to know why the City hasn't come to an agreement on a CSEA contract yet. Seems they can hire all sorts of non residents to work for our City(which is against whats stated in the Charter and Lou said he wouldn't allow non residents) and pay them good salaries and benefits to take home to be spent outside of Troy while the rest of us live here and grieve with the rest of the residents on the property tax issue. The City is Corrupt.

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    1. How many people hired are casales family?

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    2. Why aren't employees living in Troy? I thought that was a part of the job? It was when I was a kid working for parks and recreation. We moved to Brunswick and they told me I couldn't work for the City any longer and to go to the Brunswick Town Office to get a job at Brunswick Beach.

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  28. You people are Rich Crist's dream. Keep airing your dirty laundry and going after each other like a pack of hungry wolves. Keep posting stuff that can be used against ALL Democrats in coming elections.

    You make it hard for the rest of us who just want to promote a more Democratic approach to government.

    Petty, petty, petty.

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    1. Dirty laundry?

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    2. @ 4:57 is right, we are setting the stage for a big loss for our progress and vision in this city. If you don't think the republicans are licking their chops reading this drivel you're delusional . Here's something we can all get behind, Mark McGrath meets with Mirch, Tutunjian and traitor Laposta constantly. Why do you think that the 400 pound Vandenburgh goon is at all the meetings and hearings.? Who butters his bread? Wise up before it's to late.

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    3. vision in this city what a joke just look at code there all from the burgh led by psychopaths who cant wait to rat any one out on the dems team there cannibals who would eat there young to keep those pay checks coming in
      and there is slim pickins at his time not much graft to get hardly any way to skim the system when the economy is bad remember when the economy get's worse and people have no hope they will rise up against there oppressors
      watch what happens in the next election it will surprise every one

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    4. Who cares if the Republicans read this. Guess what? They'll still lose.

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    5. Exactly! That little bird that has put a bee in your bonnets is a GOP operative. They are laughing their asset off watching democrats making a bloddy mess of each other and will keep laughing when we are so weakened as a party we lose city hall and the few seats we have in the legislature.

      Get over yourselves and start doing what is right for the party, the city and county - and that is electing more demicrats , not less.

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    6. If there is one thing that I like more than buttered bread it's building shitty little houses on shitty little lots.

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    7. Why is dunne so concerned about this builder. What about his shitty little home on his shitty little lot

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    8. Thanks bill dunne for your concern of the constructions of these homes

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  29. I dream of Crist wearing piants that fit. Gotta be something nice in that Salvation Army box he shops in this time of the year with peopie cleaning their closets

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    1. sad because with all the money he makes you would think he could afford them. $95k and all the candidate campaign money he collects on the side

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    2. Yes, all that side political consulting work he does on County time. Must be nice. How about those timesheets, Richie boy? Victory!

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    3. Speaking of timesheets, whatever happened to the time accrual system the City already partially paid for? I've seen too many City employees walking the streets, going to Stewart's, going to the Post Office, shopping at Rheas,eating at restaurants more than I care too. Time for accountability...if are you scared of accountability? Get with the times, Layoff those who don't work or you have multiple people for what could be a two person job

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  30. Rich Crist's Gordon Vito Harry yeah now theirs a future for Troy Residents to count on
    Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption

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  31. How about Harry saying right at the troy city council meeting he got a phone call that the buildings on king street were being demolished
    he gets into his car breaking the sound barrier to take pictures and for what harry you have made troy the laughing stock of the try city area
    harry your the nosiest looser has been in troys history
    harry you used your psychopaths in code to do your dirty work
    vito tried to use the troy pd to do his dirty work
    jay Vandenburgh tried to get the troy pd to do his dirty work
    also speaking of mirch he did more voter fraud than any one in the history of troy
    as a legislator he introduced laws to help him in his corruption these power hungry do nothings only used any governmental movement to fill there pockets and to better them selves and screw the average citizen and tax payer
    how about 701 river street up for sale again when is the arsonists going to torch that building all the copper wire is gone all the steel is gone they even had a flea market type sale of the clothing and personal property of another tax payer right in brad daylight something smells vary bad about that situation
    troy cant even fix a bridge that is 200 feet long and that crap about having to wait for a year for the steel I was born on a monday but not last monday
    the madness continues
    every time some one with a set of balls try's to clean up this mess he is attacked buy all the corrupt inept self serving lazy do nothings
    and while we are on the subject of self serving mark mcgrath is at the top of that list
    i remember as a kid and the oc buck show all the carnival barkers in front of the tents and portable buildings step right up folks come see the bearded lady
    look at his freak with two heads
    come see elmo the geek plays guitar with his feet bites live chicken heads off
    that wheel just keeps going around and around
    Troy cant build or fix any thing with out passing it around about five committees or more do nothings the moral of this post is
    nothing from nothing ads up to nothing

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    1. Bobby C, this was posted at 3:20 AM you are obviously cockeyed drunk for the people you attack you run away from when confronted. But, you are serving a great purpose for ultimately Troy will bottom out because of unemployed, drug induced, delusional folks like you will take over. We're close right now. keep up the good work.

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    2. Troy will bottom out thanks for observations harry

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  32. You people are all need to wake up. Who benefits from the public infighting? We know you don't like Wade. And who did you come after him with? Someone with a better vision or who could bring warring factions together? No.

    Wade has done right by more people than he has wronged. He has made solid choices to run for office and had many victories.

    Until you give committee members a better choice, your attempts at unseating Wade will come off as what they are - small minded and personal.

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    1. You heard it folks let's get in line like little minions and follow orders like good little minions! Really? If he was doing it for "the people" and doing it right by us he wouldn't be pulling childish stunts like this crap. Whining and not allowing certain people and their families on a committee is petty and undermining the entire party. It shows that WADE himself is acting small-minded and taking things personal. Nice attempt at spinning BS!

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    2. I'm sorry if you find this hard to understand, but Wade is there to make sure Democrats win elections, not hold hands with all the misfits and sing kumbaya. If two faced dinks like Kenny Z are going to trash Democrats and support their Republican opponents, then they are obviously against Democrats winning elections. And so they have no business being on the Democratic committee. Google DISLOYALTY if you're still confused. Or if you rather, Kenny Z will write a disingenuous seven page dissertation on Facebook with a bunch of fancypants words to show he's way smarter than you.

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    3. If you are going after the king, you better make sure you kill him because if you just wound him, her will come after you.

      That is how it works in the world of politics.

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    4. 4:01 Having a difference of opinion or another way of doing something is not the definition of disloyalty. Not getting your way and throwing a fit is called a TANTRUM, if you're still confused. Wade's picks for quality Dem candidates have gone downhill over the last few years, admit it. Half of them can't even say kumbaya let alone sing it.

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    5. That's true ...they think it's a new app on their phones

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  33. No doubt Mirch did it!

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  34. Wade has to go. What right does he have to decide who can run and who can't? This is America people. "...for the people by the people" What part of that does everyone not understand? No one should have that much power! Last time I checked, we are the people!!!

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  35. if your not in the club in Troy you get a stick in the eye that's it period its all about protecting those pay checks
    by the way some of these people are making some serious cash and they get perks galore
    and many of them don't care about on one but them selves and will stop at nothing to get there cash
    and if a tax payer standes in there way they get code enforcement on them like fly's shi$
    if code cant get at them then the state comes in and does what ever thay can do to run them off
    if they show up at city council meetings they get scoffed at and not take seriously
    so actually no one has a voice unless they want you to have a voice

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    1. If you aren't a relative, close friend, someone doing a favor for someone, you are out in Troy. If someone didn't babysit you as a kid your out.but with all these people who have close knit relations in Troy and hire their own, it isn't doing the City any good, it's just getting worse. Where is this strong Italian community that apparently is the glue to keeping the City together? Oh that's right they all moved outside of the City. Everybody said the commissioner wasn't working. Well hate to bust balls but there is a DRASTIC increase in crime and 2 deaths since the chief has been back, and now the fire chief thinks he can do whatever the he'll he likes. We need a commissioner over BOTH and NOW

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  36. This is not about better choices. This is not about protecting the party. This is about Tom Wade removing people that disagree with him. Simple as that. When Wade is screaming at executive committee members because they do not support him in removing Wiltshire and Zalewski as candidates, it tells you all you need to know. All this will come out during the witch trials.

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    1. Whoaaa...Wade didn't scream and no members objected. Kenny Z and Rodney sat there silently lacking the courage to confront Wade. Hours later emails and facebook were burning up. They then enlisted Premo to question the legalities to no avail. What ever you feel about Wade he stood and emasculated them and they sat like the cowards they are. We were all waiting for the some confrontation but had to wait until the blogs and facebook. Your leaders.

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  37. How about the City Assessor lives in Castleton? Laughing all the way home with a nice paycheck while all us schmucks live here and pay the taxes.....cmon now...

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    1. Buck tooth beaver?

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    2. No that's chamberlains New hire that took another csea position away because she's friends with his sons

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    3. What residency requirements? You mean the people who work for city government are supposed to live here in Troy? Good luck with that.

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    4. Could of sworn LOU and Mike Fraser were quoted in the paper as ensuring all employees will be residents. Maybe LOUS STAFF lie to him and cover up for people and have them use false addresses...but that would be a crime wouldn't it be? An actual ARRESTABLE crime

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  38. Any news on Germano's trial?

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  39. Nice to see all the white folks in East Greenbush carrying on about the casino mostly all white women. They just can't stand to possibly have black folks working in there town. East Crackerbush. Keeping the blacks out since 1925.

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    1. Maybe East Crackerbush has watched the long and painful demise of Troy with it's out of control crime and decided they don't want to follow that path?

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    2. same as troy crackers and even worse

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    3. still not as good as animal crackers.

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    4. All those women bitching are originally from south troy but moved out there...don't let them fool you....some were from the heights and others I remember sitting on their "stoops" ...Lol..not steps...stoops...in south troy

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  40. How about this....this applies to both the democrat and republic parties...based on payroll information furnished from see through NY and the BOE, I compiled a couple figures for you. So far a total of about 70 or so City Employees dont live in Troy(as indicated by the polling place where these employees voted)with an annual salary payout of $1,671,861.00....other employees couldn't be determined due to inactivity in voting or more information will need to be supplied...which I will...and if these employees in fact do not vote and are out of city as well, this brings a total annual payout of $2,930,146.00 -- just thought I'd throw this bone in for some people to chew...

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  41. And you know what goes on in the executive committee because....

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    1. I don't,I just inquired and received the information as it should be furnished.

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  42. You can tell 90% of the people posting are Republicans. None of them can spell worth a damned.

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    1. A $300,000 overpayment happened under the nose of an accounting professor, who just happens to also be the Mayor and a Democrat. Rather a misspelled word than a bankruptcy.

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    2. I will have you know I am a denicrat

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    3. Hmmm let's see.

      A. $300,000 accounting error caught immediately= no loss to taxpayers.

      B. $208,000 employee theft over a six year period, right under Jimino's nose = $203,000 loss to taxpayers.

      $203,000 > 0

      Looks like Republicans can't do math, either.

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    4. Again dufus the $300,000 was NOT "caught immediately" and it was not discovered by the democrat mayor or his staff. It was almost a year later when the library folks discovered it. You dems are incapable of telling the truth.

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    5. But apparently a 300,000 overpayment is nothing.Not in the real world. In the real world you would have been bitch slapped by your boss which in this case is State Comptroller and then Cuomo. Come on in State, please take over the City and downsize already. Get rid of the idiots.Force retirements.

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    6. In the real world Kathy Jimino would be out on her ass after letting an employee steal $208,000 of taxpayer money over a period of YEARS. That money is GONE folks. $5000 recovered and that's it. And notice how they don't think it's a big deal. Well, regular folks like us think that's a lot of money. Maybe it's time for the regular folks to throw all these Republican clowns out.

      You have to wonder.. how much more of our money did the Republicans lose that we don't even know about yet? They are obviously incapable of competent oversight of county funds.

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    7. Hey 4:54, how much of that $300,000 was actually spent? How much did the taxpayers lose?

      I'll help you. ZERO.

      Fondly,
      dufus

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    8. Dufus, why don't you tell us again how Lou caught it right away? And while we're on the subject of taxpayers losing money why not read the minutes of Lou's LDC team. Pete Ryan, Dunne and Kenny (Putin)Z losing money like true dems.

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    9. Hey dufus...the library list out, the City actually owed them money from a vote that was passed to increase what the received....they were already shorted money and now the City says "oh we will just make this a wash" not real accounting

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  43. Not to worry about the in-fighting. You are dens. You steal vote, run candidates with multipile felonies,have sitting councilmen under indictment, steal hud money,shut down roads for months at a time, tear down buildings illegally, lie about anything and everything - and still win. Stop your F-in whining

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    1. If 5:33 statement alleging reasons to not vote for Democrats yet they "still win", doens't that bring a conclusion about Dem leadership's ability to elect candidates ?

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    2. at 5:33 PM
      You must be talking about mirch when you're saying
      "You steal votes, run candidates with multipile felonies (Kevin Gervasio), steal hud money, lie about anything and everything".

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05vy7GV5Aik

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  44. Rent on the fifth floor four years 30,000 X 48 = 1,440,000
    Elect and insurance 144,000
    Total 1,584,000

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  45. at 4:53 AM
    Rent + TAXES (the City shouldn't be paying taxes) on 1776 6th = $40,000 a month for a full year when we couldn't use the building (no elevator), a building that Troy owned due to reverter clause $480,000 + $1.5 million in upgrade costs to Troy = $1,980,000 for first years "rent"! Due to a poorly written "lease" rent went up to $70,000 a month. So, who do you think screwed us harder?

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    1. Bully bill dunne must get updates of the blog on his iPhone. Or he has nothing better to do than troll the blogs

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    2. ...and the City won the lawsuit thanks to Harry. $365,000 plus interest. More bad math and bad information from the Delusional Bunch that meets at Manory's every Saturday morning.

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    3. Gee, who would have ever thought? More dribble out of the mouth of one of Harrys several stooges.

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    4. 365,000 is chump change...that money easily left the City in a few lawsuits with a crooked city being run by crooked idiots

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    5. Where, specifically?

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    6. 365K is chump change? More than a 1 and a half tax increase on the city's shrinking property owners. I can tell why you're familiar with the word "chump".

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    7. 365,000 pays for about three-four city of troy employees salaries that don't even live in the city....so yeah ...chump change...because I too am a tax payer and no one has the balls to address the residency issue except for the little guys

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    8. To find out specifically go to the City of Troy website and read up on the minutes and meetings....

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  46. June 13, 2014 at 6:12 PM Question how much money are we getting for the property @ old demolished city hall site cash wise
    How much in taxes will the people who are buying said property be paying over a 10 year period

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  47. Where's your answer fungus? Whoops...dufus.....fungus....same thing...your an annoying and won't go away

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    1. Don't know what you want me to answer? If it makes you feel better to point the finger at the county government and rail about wasted money so be it. Frankly there is wasteful spending and hack jobs. Yet to ignore the fact that an incompetent, corrupt democratic administration is ruining this city is well....delusional. Hope you clear up that fungus but I doubt you'll ever be much more than a dufus!

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    2. I'm not pointing a finger at the county but if the county has no say in the City's finances then it shouldn't have any say in our politics unless your going to do good by us...I am a democrat and I am extremely upset on how things are run...this isn't someone's personal business here..you are NOT the ONLY ones who have collateral/stock put into the city...we the taxpayers do as well or do we not count until it comes to election time when you do nothing but suck up to us...

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  48. Where's your answer fungus? Whoops...dufus.....fungus....same thing...your an annoying and won't go away

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  49. And where is the sheriff during all of This nonsense? Sleeping under an overpass, perchance?...Calvin Spaulding.

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