WADE (Times Union photo) |
As reported, when the petitions
forms for committee members were handed out last week, they did not include the
names of Council President Rodney Wiltshire, his wife Jolene or Councilman Ken
Zalewski, D-District 5.
They also didn’t include three family
members of Brian Premo - a long time attorney and Democrat who also has had his differences with Wade - for their committee seats in Brunswick.
The Wiltshires and Zalewski,
however, will not be “bullied by the chairman," according to their camp, and
are preparing to wage primaries. While Wade did not say he would follow through,
he does have the option of assigning a committee to hold hearings to determine
if they should permanently get thrown out of the party for disloyalty.
WILTSHIRE |
The way it works, though, is that
a committeeman can run in any Election District located within the Assembly
District in which they live so it’s kind of difficult to see who will run
against who until the petition process is complete.
Anyway, disloyalty, according to
Wade, includes Zalewski’s support of Republican Councilman Dean Bodnar,
R-District 3, over Democrat Michelle DeLair in last year’s election and
Wiltshire’s acceptance of the Independence Party line - which helped him oust Councilwoman
Lynn Kopka,a party loyalist, as president. Since the Independence Party is controlled
at the local level by the GOP, Wade claims Wiltshire made a deal and gave
Republicans appointments in return for the party’s nod.
The “dead weight” claim stems from
Wade’s contention that the Premos do not show up to committee meetings and do little
or no work for the party.
ZALEWSKI |
Also, two years ago, Wiltshire,
Zalewski and Premo worked for Robert “Rabbit” Riley in an unsuccessful effort
to oust Wade as chairman.
The way it works, according to
Wade, is that the town chairs throughout the county and council district
leaders in Troy recommend names of those party members they would like to see
serve on their respective committees. Wade maintains he is only following those
recommendations.
Control of the committee is
important in that the committee picks the chairman and ultimately has control
who the party endorses. Zalewski is term limited out, but Wiltshire does have
political ambitions past the Troy Council and one option is obviously mayor.
If Wade is not supporting
Wiltshire for committee, it stands to reason Wiltshire is not his top pick for
mayor should Mayor Lou Rosamilia opt not to run for another term. Actually, it
would be difficult to see Wade supporting him for another run at Council.
Wade said the party is also
shaking up committees in Grafton, East Greenbush and Hoosick but denied there
is an all-out house cleaning in Troy as evidenced by the party carrying petitions
for former Troy Councilman Mike LoPorto and operative Tom Aldrich in Troy,
Charles “CB” Smith in North Greenbush and Phil Malone in East Greenbush. All of
whom have had their differences with Wade.
In other words, the war is on and
it should be a good one. Wade has been through them before and is not without
his support on the committee and Wiltshire and Zalewski are two proven vote
getters and popular in the city.
Given the discord within the Democrats, though, its most powerful weapon remains the complete lack of a Republican Party in the City of Troy.
Given the discord within the Democrats, though, its most powerful weapon remains the complete lack of a Republican Party in the City of Troy.
Did Wade make a deal with Jimino not to run a candidate against her or Merola in the last two elections?
ReplyDeleteYou are so clueless. But it's entertaining.
DeleteProbably did because Merolas kids all got city and county jobs without experience
DeleteWhy is Tom Wade listing his address on petitions as Highpointe when he lives on 5th Av. I'm a committeeman who thinks Wade should step down as chairman if he is going to lie about his address. Makes me wonder what else is he lying about?
ReplyDeleteI don't know were Tom Wade lives but if you're asking him to step down cause he may be lieing you should be demanding Lou, Pete, Dunne, Kopka and Garrett all step down also. There's no "may" be lieing, they lie as easy as they breath.
DeleteIt's spelled lying, genius.
DeleteI agree with that! I asked about addresses in March in a FOIL and still no info they say it's invasion of privacy. Bullshit it is especially when it's a contingency of employment. LOU you need to audit all City Employees and their current residency, you PROMISED that you wouldn't hire or keep employees that job requirements included living here in Troy. THIS is the easiest task for you to do,have all employees submit a copy of their mortgage,lease,utility bill to you immediately(of course they need to have it notarized..which is FREE at any bank)and submit it to your office.unfortunately you will be saddened by how many employees personnel has chosen NOT to abide by your policy.They even helped them move recently outside of the City.
DeleteTo speak at a council meeting you have to list your address. To be a Commissioner of Deeds you have to list your address, but theirs are "invasions of privacy". Pathetic. Its all to get out of the residency restrictions. Its disgusting how all of these people have say over Troy-- but won't live there themselves.
DeleteEven on FOILS ..they are suppose to be OPEN on furnishing information..they are NOT complying...I would love to hear other residents opinions on how they the residents of Troy have to try and make ends meet and cut back on things to pay for the tax increases but yet a good percentage of the City's employees don't...
Delete"I agree with that! I asked about addresses in March in a FOIL and still no info they say it's invasion of privacy"
DeleteAt least they didn't blatantly lie and say it was lost because a hard drive failed.
If they did I would have them put that in writing and notarized by someone else than a city of troy employee
DeleteWade wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him in the mouth.
ReplyDeleteMr. Wade you seem to have a double standard when it comes disloyalty. And who gives a rat's ass if Troy is rustling the feathers of "surrounding" towns and villages...the energy should be focused on Troy
ReplyDeleteCan anyone start a petition to remove Wade?
ReplyDeleteINTEGRITY
ReplyDeleteThis is Troy politics, there is no integrity.
DeleteI would have to question Mr Wade on just what party he IS chairman of.
ReplyDeleteT he person is right when they say he has not run a candidate for major county races in twelve years.I say WADE FOR REPUBLICAN COUNTY CHAIRMAN.
shouldn't he be held for treason? He supported Carmella for at large.
DeleteAnd would you prefer he ran losers like CB Smith, La Posta et.al. to embarrass the Democratic Party ? Wade seems to have a practice of not wasting money on candidates who can't win.
DeleteWhat has this council done?
ReplyDelete*crickets chirping*
DeleteFear makes the cowards lash out it seems
ReplyDeleteIndeed. The anti-Wades and Rodney supporters are angry people. Powerlessness will do that to you.
DeleteUnfortunately bribery and money is what makes them powerful. Poor qualities in what is running our City.Go back to doing the right things and following policy..then the true contender will stand out...until then corruption and favoritism will continue...if you are a resident of Troy and fed up with the same ole same ole vote all these crooks out
DeleteYou have proof?
DeleteSure there is proof. Although I can understand one or two family members working for the City but the whole family? I looked over the City's Payroll and expenditures and there is proof of the conflicts of interest and this information is available to anyone just contact DiNapoli
DeleteWhose family has more than one or two members on the taxpayer payroll? Other than Harry Tutunjian's, of course.
DeleteMahoney, McGrath,Hart,Skiba,Ruffinen...want me to go on?
DeleteThat's proof of bribery?
DeleteFamily business doing work for the City in return for hiring their relatives,friends,etc.
DeleteThat's proof of nepotism
DeletePlease list one thing rodney or ken have accomplished. I'm waiting. Bueller. Bueller
ReplyDeleteThey have been there for the City residents in time of need. They respond before all the other quacks do.
Delete*crickets chirping*
DeleteKenny got us our Verizon FiOS like he promised, he freed us from the Time Warner monopoly!
DeleteOh wait... no he didn't.
Let's give Kenny Z an "E" for effort for writing pages and pages of overwrought condescending bullshit on facebook and twitter to make it look like he actually does something.
DeleteWill Wade act to remove Mark Pattison and Joe Manupella from his party too?After all, they consistently endorsed Joe Bruno against and sometimes to prevent any Democratic opponent. I don't recall Wade ever complaining each time they did this over many years.
ReplyDeleteI liked him better when he was a drunk!
ReplyDeleteIts actually funny to see all this childish behavior. All of these people are suppose to follow this guys lead like he is the end all. Laughable, your no Fat Ed Tom Wade!
ReplyDeleteRodney for Mayor on the Republican line! He is a reasonable man, great education and from what I see an honest guy. That would be cool for Troy, we never have had that! Well except for John Buckley and he also was an Engineer. Bring on Rodney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ReplyDeleteRodney has the pompous attitude of a Republican. you have a good idea 4:37
DeleteFor a smart guy, he sure is dumb.
DeleteYou have to read Tom Wade's letter from 2007 when the Spain's tried to remove county committee members for "disloyalty". Not only did he spank them but his Executive Committee voted against the attempt as well as the whole county committee. I guess it's wrong to remove party members for disloyalty unless they are disloyal to the county chairman's views. Hopefully Tom Wade will read his more responsible positions from 2007 and not allow himself to become the same reckless and intolerant person he properly rallied against in 2007. Read his letter here:http://northgreenbushpipeline.blogspot.com/2014/06/casino-courage-and-democrats-tent.html
ReplyDeleteKeep trying CB. You haven't won a battle yet---except for the time you locked yourself in your car and left your wife and daughter exposed to the so called raging maniac who was ranting at you.
Deleteso this is why all the irrelevant people on this blog have been saying Rodney won't get the D-line. WOW. That's hilarious. They think they can actually pull a McCarthy, what they don't know is that McCarthyism is very much dead. Although, humor is not lost on the fact that wade is trying to kick out the only gay elected on this side of the river, and one of only two African American elected on this side of the river....I wonder how that narrative will be written. The irony is that Wiltshire and Zalewski swore an oath to be loyal to the party...not to the corrupt chairman...seems when wade doesn't get his way, he gets intimidated.
ReplyDeleteThis is all about the mayoral race next year, this is wade's only shot at taking Rodney out at the knees so he doesn't attempt to take out Lou. It's getting interesting.
The irrelevant people on this blog are Rodney supporters, not Wade supporters.
DeleteKen Z is not the only openly gay elected official on this side of the river. Nice try though.
Palvic?
DeleteHe's not? Well then he must be the only cute gay official because I haven't heard of another..who is the other...I'll vote for them all..the city needs more diversity...
DeleteSo they're not as attractive as Ken and one maybe doesn't twerk at Kokopellis. Some of us aren't on the continual stroll. You're an insult to true diversity.
DeleteThere are TWO more in Troy.
DeleteDidn't mean for cute, dont even know how that got typed in.I think the issue is the current administration is NOT diverse when it cones to having city officials that are gay or black and they openly admitted it before. There is a ton of racism in the City,I hear the comments everyday. Two more what in Troy? Gay or black candidates? Who cares as long as they want to do the best for the City and cut all this crap that's been going on for decades let them do their job.that's who we want.It beats having another mother,father,sister,brother,cousin,friend of the mafia working the City..these people don't care about the City they just want their own in....and that is not being diverse
DeleteAre you brain damaged? What color is Anastasia? Considering the council has only nine members, it's ALREADY diverse in terms of race, gender, and sexual orientation. Stop whining like an old lady.
Delete3:14 Stop whining Irreverend Tim, we know you have a thing for Ken Z. Diversity? Please-- what we don't have are ones that are actually qualified to sit in those chairs. These are Wade's picks for the most qualified, Troy can do better. On paper we have diversity, in reality we have ones who vote or open their mouths until they are told to vote and speak. Puppets.
DeleteOn paper we have diversity, in reality we have ones who vote or open their mouths until they are told to vote and speak. Puppets.
DeleteBest post in 15 years
Or the ones that vote,open their mouths and get told by the Mayor to mind your own business
DeleteOne huge Irony is the difference in this party to what is loyal and what is considered treason. Bill Mcinerny--loyal, Mayor Pattison- Loyal, Michele Delair-loyal (donated to several republicans), Frank Laposta-loyal, BUT Wiltshire-treason.
ReplyDeleteOnly denominator here is that Wiltshire is threatening Wade's power. I guess that's treason.
Does not compute.
I hate to disagree but I have letters from city council people and committee people saying I was disloyal. Just to set the record straight I was not one of Tom Wade"s favorites.
DeleteYes, but you were disloyal. Your kinship with Mirch not only shows your disloyalty and after the way he helped crush you against Tutunjian and then embarrassed you with his post election shenanigans shows your complete foolishness.
DeleteDon't flatter your inflated ego Rodney. Wade is not threatened by you. He knows where the votes are when he runs and there's not a majority in Troy.
DeleteIf he was intimidated by you or Zalewski, do you think he would be exhibiting the balls to take you two phonies off the party committee ?
Threatening Wade's power? Here's a tip. Making threats doesn't necessarily make you threatening.
DeleteRodney and Ken-- because of course we know you read this blog faithfully-- here's some big boy advice. It doesn't matter how smart, articulate, and photogenic you are, if the people who matter don't like you, you are done. The lone wolf doesn't survive long in politics. If you insult fellow Dems, collude with the Republicans, try to embarrass your party, try to embarrass an administration that has tried to work with you just to score political points, and generally act like an imperious spoiled child, your remaining support will evaporate. The fact that this seems to surprise and upset you shows how egocentric and immature you really are.
Feel free to petition, have clandestine meetings, stomp your feet, give away tacos, do circle twerks with Premo, or whatever it is you think you need to do to take over the committee and oust Wade. It won't change anything, because while you have the support of a band of motley misfits, you don't have the support of the people who have credibility and influence. You alienated them all. Wade won't be the one to take you down. You'll do it to yourselves.
549, he sure would, it's called bullying, workplace bullying,runs rampant in the City ask Bill Chamberlain, his bullying gets him everywhere,not to mention he's another one who doesn't follow policies but yet Lou allows it.
DeleteI wish Frank LaPosta would run for mayor. Bring back the whole crowd, they were better than this incompetent crew.
DeleteFrank LaPosta got about six votes when he ran for council in his home district. And you think he can win a mayoral race?
Delete@ 7:00pm thanks bill, but the only people who matter in this equation are voters. And wade does not control the vote. Obviously the voters have spoken and Rodney is CC President. Deal with it.
DeleteBill Chamberlain has survived 33 years how many people got trampled bullied and fired set up etc etc etc for him to stay in city hall
DeleteI thought chamberlain was a cop?no? How did he pull that guy over lights and sirens a few years back then?
DeleteHe beat them with a log...oh no wait...that's his son
Delete549, he sure would, it's called bullying, workplace bullying,runs rampant in the City ask Bill Chamberlain, his bullying gets him everywhere,not to mention he's another one who doesn't follow policies but yet Lou allows it.
DeleteSecond best post in 15 years
Bill is a wanna be cop
His son was only emulating his father the apples don't fall far from the tree
Awww...Yeah well I know quite a few people who more than qualify for,PAID MONEY to take an exam with the City of Troy, qualified for the exam/position via application that has to be completed... only to have you and the Civil Service Commission choose a NonResident for positions in the City of Troy that have relatives do business with the City...conflict of interest ...in addition to fraud...
ReplyDeleteDon't forget Frank sat on the civil service board when they used a one time rule of residents get picked before non-residents on the firefighters test regardless of score. Were they trying to reach somebody?
DeleteI thought PAID city employees couldn't be on the Civil Service Commission.I thought that was a conflict if interest
DeleteAt least he is not supporting Mahar for Sheriff
ReplyDeleteSheriff Mahar, that bad bad boy. He's the Bill Dunne of the Rensselaer County GOP.
Deleteto: June 10, 2014 at 2:07 PM
ReplyDeleteYou're right, Ken isn't the only gay elected official on this side of the river. However, Wade also screwed him over IF you remember correctly. Wade also wanted Chappy, Mike and Kevin to step down as Councilman while NOT asking Gary to step down. What does that tell you? It reeks of Wade being able to control Gary but not the others.
Exactly how did Wade screw over Gary Pavlic?
DeleteChappy and Mike weren't asked to step down from the council. Chappy chose not to seek re-election after he was indicted and Loporto ran and lost by a landslide.
And if you can't figure out why Wade wanted Mcgrath to resign then you're truly hopeless. Forget about control, he was just an embarrassment and mistake from day one.
Chappy stepped down after total dick knobs went after his elderly father because he earned 100 more a month for housing. Which by the way COULD have been looked over due to the state of the economy..people were just pure assholes for going after a senior citizen.....I know a city employees whose father was a part of welfare fraud and republicans were covering up for him luckily the man died so no one got to actually prove it
DeleteThis is all about the MIGHTY McGrath family and the mud thrown on them by Wade. Only problem is that when the MIGHTY McGrath family tried to float there holy art thou bullshit is when the truth about Kevin "Fredo" McGrath came out so what does aI fine person like Kevin and his classless brother Ed do they blame wade.
DeleteIts not about Wade against the McGraths, Wade throws no mud against Pat McGrath, he deserves the support he gets. But Kevin is no pat McGrath. Even anti Wade people think Kevin is a joke. He dug his own grave with the party and the voters.
DeleteBrian Premo is not a Democrat
ReplyDeleteBut he plays one on TV
DeleteDunne being questioned by fitzy. Oh boy
ReplyDeleteDon't know whats worse. The FB pic of bill dunnes toes and peanut bitter dot bobby cox surfing 40 years ago
ReplyDeleteThe fact you are stalking their FB pages is worse.
Deletedear AnonymousJune 10, 2014 at 8:02 PM you couldn't find your ass&&ole with a GPS and a compass
DeleteFB is a good place to write you letter before you commit suicide
Facebook is public you snotrag
DeleteThese comments against Wade are humorous. He's the one with proven record of leadership of his party . Still waiting for Kenny and Roddy to show something other than ego.
ReplyDeleteWhat has Wade done?
DeleteHow does Wade not asking Gary to step down screw Ken?
ReplyDeleteI agree with anonymous
ReplyDeleteI'd like to know why the City hasn't come to an agreement on a CSEA contract yet. Seems they can hire all sorts of non residents to work for our City(which is against whats stated in the Charter and Lou said he wouldn't allow non residents) and pay them good salaries and benefits to take home to be spent outside of Troy while the rest of us live here and grieve with the rest of the residents on the property tax issue. The City is Corrupt.
ReplyDeleteHow many people hired are casales family?
DeleteTwo
DeleteWhy aren't employees living in Troy? I thought that was a part of the job? It was when I was a kid working for parks and recreation. We moved to Brunswick and they told me I couldn't work for the City any longer and to go to the Brunswick Town Office to get a job at Brunswick Beach.
DeleteYou people are Rich Crist's dream. Keep airing your dirty laundry and going after each other like a pack of hungry wolves. Keep posting stuff that can be used against ALL Democrats in coming elections.
ReplyDeleteYou make it hard for the rest of us who just want to promote a more Democratic approach to government.
Petty, petty, petty.
Dirty laundry?
Delete@ 4:57 is right, we are setting the stage for a big loss for our progress and vision in this city. If you don't think the republicans are licking their chops reading this drivel you're delusional . Here's something we can all get behind, Mark McGrath meets with Mirch, Tutunjian and traitor Laposta constantly. Why do you think that the 400 pound Vandenburgh goon is at all the meetings and hearings.? Who butters his bread? Wise up before it's to late.
Deletevision in this city what a joke just look at code there all from the burgh led by psychopaths who cant wait to rat any one out on the dems team there cannibals who would eat there young to keep those pay checks coming in
Deleteand there is slim pickins at his time not much graft to get hardly any way to skim the system when the economy is bad remember when the economy get's worse and people have no hope they will rise up against there oppressors
watch what happens in the next election it will surprise every one
Who cares if the Republicans read this. Guess what? They'll still lose.
DeleteExactly! That little bird that has put a bee in your bonnets is a GOP operative. They are laughing their asset off watching democrats making a bloddy mess of each other and will keep laughing when we are so weakened as a party we lose city hall and the few seats we have in the legislature.
DeleteGet over yourselves and start doing what is right for the party, the city and county - and that is electing more demicrats , not less.
If there is one thing that I like more than buttered bread it's building shitty little houses on shitty little lots.
DeleteHahaha
DeleteWhy is dunne so concerned about this builder. What about his shitty little home on his shitty little lot
DeleteThanks bill dunne for your concern of the constructions of these homes
DeleteI dream of Crist wearing piants that fit. Gotta be something nice in that Salvation Army box he shops in this time of the year with peopie cleaning their closets
ReplyDeletesad because with all the money he makes you would think he could afford them. $95k and all the candidate campaign money he collects on the side
DeleteYes, all that side political consulting work he does on County time. Must be nice. How about those timesheets, Richie boy? Victory!
DeleteSpeaking of timesheets, whatever happened to the time accrual system the City already partially paid for? I've seen too many City employees walking the streets, going to Stewart's, going to the Post Office, shopping at Rheas,eating at restaurants more than I care too. Time for accountability...if are you scared of accountability? Get with the times, Layoff those who don't work or you have multiple people for what could be a two person job
DeleteRich Crist's Gordon Vito Harry yeah now theirs a future for Troy Residents to count on
ReplyDeleteCorruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption Corruption
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption
How about Harry saying right at the troy city council meeting he got a phone call that the buildings on king street were being demolished
ReplyDeletehe gets into his car breaking the sound barrier to take pictures and for what harry you have made troy the laughing stock of the try city area
harry your the nosiest looser has been in troys history
harry you used your psychopaths in code to do your dirty work
vito tried to use the troy pd to do his dirty work
jay Vandenburgh tried to get the troy pd to do his dirty work
also speaking of mirch he did more voter fraud than any one in the history of troy
as a legislator he introduced laws to help him in his corruption these power hungry do nothings only used any governmental movement to fill there pockets and to better them selves and screw the average citizen and tax payer
how about 701 river street up for sale again when is the arsonists going to torch that building all the copper wire is gone all the steel is gone they even had a flea market type sale of the clothing and personal property of another tax payer right in brad daylight something smells vary bad about that situation
troy cant even fix a bridge that is 200 feet long and that crap about having to wait for a year for the steel I was born on a monday but not last monday
the madness continues
every time some one with a set of balls try's to clean up this mess he is attacked buy all the corrupt inept self serving lazy do nothings
and while we are on the subject of self serving mark mcgrath is at the top of that list
i remember as a kid and the oc buck show all the carnival barkers in front of the tents and portable buildings step right up folks come see the bearded lady
look at his freak with two heads
come see elmo the geek plays guitar with his feet bites live chicken heads off
that wheel just keeps going around and around
Troy cant build or fix any thing with out passing it around about five committees or more do nothings the moral of this post is
nothing from nothing ads up to nothing
Bobby C, this was posted at 3:20 AM you are obviously cockeyed drunk for the people you attack you run away from when confronted. But, you are serving a great purpose for ultimately Troy will bottom out because of unemployed, drug induced, delusional folks like you will take over. We're close right now. keep up the good work.
DeleteTroy will bottom out thanks for observations harry
DeleteYou people are all need to wake up. Who benefits from the public infighting? We know you don't like Wade. And who did you come after him with? Someone with a better vision or who could bring warring factions together? No.
ReplyDeleteWade has done right by more people than he has wronged. He has made solid choices to run for office and had many victories.
Until you give committee members a better choice, your attempts at unseating Wade will come off as what they are - small minded and personal.
You heard it folks let's get in line like little minions and follow orders like good little minions! Really? If he was doing it for "the people" and doing it right by us he wouldn't be pulling childish stunts like this crap. Whining and not allowing certain people and their families on a committee is petty and undermining the entire party. It shows that WADE himself is acting small-minded and taking things personal. Nice attempt at spinning BS!
DeleteI'm sorry if you find this hard to understand, but Wade is there to make sure Democrats win elections, not hold hands with all the misfits and sing kumbaya. If two faced dinks like Kenny Z are going to trash Democrats and support their Republican opponents, then they are obviously against Democrats winning elections. And so they have no business being on the Democratic committee. Google DISLOYALTY if you're still confused. Or if you rather, Kenny Z will write a disingenuous seven page dissertation on Facebook with a bunch of fancypants words to show he's way smarter than you.
DeleteIf you are going after the king, you better make sure you kill him because if you just wound him, her will come after you.
DeleteThat is how it works in the world of politics.
4:01 Having a difference of opinion or another way of doing something is not the definition of disloyalty. Not getting your way and throwing a fit is called a TANTRUM, if you're still confused. Wade's picks for quality Dem candidates have gone downhill over the last few years, admit it. Half of them can't even say kumbaya let alone sing it.
DeleteThat's true ...they think it's a new app on their phones
DeleteNo doubt Mirch did it!
ReplyDeleteWade has to go. What right does he have to decide who can run and who can't? This is America people. "...for the people by the people" What part of that does everyone not understand? No one should have that much power! Last time I checked, we are the people!!!
ReplyDeleteif your not in the club in Troy you get a stick in the eye that's it period its all about protecting those pay checks
ReplyDeleteby the way some of these people are making some serious cash and they get perks galore
and many of them don't care about on one but them selves and will stop at nothing to get there cash
and if a tax payer standes in there way they get code enforcement on them like fly's shi$
if code cant get at them then the state comes in and does what ever thay can do to run them off
if they show up at city council meetings they get scoffed at and not take seriously
so actually no one has a voice unless they want you to have a voice
If you aren't a relative, close friend, someone doing a favor for someone, you are out in Troy. If someone didn't babysit you as a kid your out.but with all these people who have close knit relations in Troy and hire their own, it isn't doing the City any good, it's just getting worse. Where is this strong Italian community that apparently is the glue to keeping the City together? Oh that's right they all moved outside of the City. Everybody said the commissioner wasn't working. Well hate to bust balls but there is a DRASTIC increase in crime and 2 deaths since the chief has been back, and now the fire chief thinks he can do whatever the he'll he likes. We need a commissioner over BOTH and NOW
DeleteThis is not about better choices. This is not about protecting the party. This is about Tom Wade removing people that disagree with him. Simple as that. When Wade is screaming at executive committee members because they do not support him in removing Wiltshire and Zalewski as candidates, it tells you all you need to know. All this will come out during the witch trials.
ReplyDeleteWhoaaa...Wade didn't scream and no members objected. Kenny Z and Rodney sat there silently lacking the courage to confront Wade. Hours later emails and facebook were burning up. They then enlisted Premo to question the legalities to no avail. What ever you feel about Wade he stood and emasculated them and they sat like the cowards they are. We were all waiting for the some confrontation but had to wait until the blogs and facebook. Your leaders.
DeleteHow about the City Assessor lives in Castleton? Laughing all the way home with a nice paycheck while all us schmucks live here and pay the taxes.....cmon now...
ReplyDeleteBuck tooth beaver?
DeleteNo that's chamberlains New hire that took another csea position away because she's friends with his sons
DeleteWhat residency requirements? You mean the people who work for city government are supposed to live here in Troy? Good luck with that.
DeleteCould of sworn LOU and Mike Fraser were quoted in the paper as ensuring all employees will be residents. Maybe LOUS STAFF lie to him and cover up for people and have them use false addresses...but that would be a crime wouldn't it be? An actual ARRESTABLE crime
DeleteAny news on Germano's trial?
ReplyDeleteNice to see all the white folks in East Greenbush carrying on about the casino mostly all white women. They just can't stand to possibly have black folks working in there town. East Crackerbush. Keeping the blacks out since 1925.
ReplyDeleteMaybe East Crackerbush has watched the long and painful demise of Troy with it's out of control crime and decided they don't want to follow that path?
Deletesame as troy crackers and even worse
Deletestill not as good as animal crackers.
DeleteAll those women bitching are originally from south troy but moved out there...don't let them fool you....some were from the heights and others I remember sitting on their "stoops" ...Lol..not steps...stoops...in south troy
DeleteHow about this....this applies to both the democrat and republic parties...based on payroll information furnished from see through NY and the BOE, I compiled a couple figures for you. So far a total of about 70 or so City Employees dont live in Troy(as indicated by the polling place where these employees voted)with an annual salary payout of $1,671,861.00....other employees couldn't be determined due to inactivity in voting or more information will need to be supplied...which I will...and if these employees in fact do not vote and are out of city as well, this brings a total annual payout of $2,930,146.00 -- just thought I'd throw this bone in for some people to chew...
ReplyDeleteAnd you know what goes on in the executive committee because....
ReplyDeleteI don't,I just inquired and received the information as it should be furnished.
DeleteYou can tell 90% of the people posting are Republicans. None of them can spell worth a damned.
ReplyDeleteA $300,000 overpayment happened under the nose of an accounting professor, who just happens to also be the Mayor and a Democrat. Rather a misspelled word than a bankruptcy.
DeleteI will have you know I am a denicrat
DeleteHmmm let's see.
DeleteA. $300,000 accounting error caught immediately= no loss to taxpayers.
B. $208,000 employee theft over a six year period, right under Jimino's nose = $203,000 loss to taxpayers.
$203,000 > 0
Looks like Republicans can't do math, either.
Again dufus the $300,000 was NOT "caught immediately" and it was not discovered by the democrat mayor or his staff. It was almost a year later when the library folks discovered it. You dems are incapable of telling the truth.
DeleteBut apparently a 300,000 overpayment is nothing.Not in the real world. In the real world you would have been bitch slapped by your boss which in this case is State Comptroller and then Cuomo. Come on in State, please take over the City and downsize already. Get rid of the idiots.Force retirements.
DeleteIn the real world Kathy Jimino would be out on her ass after letting an employee steal $208,000 of taxpayer money over a period of YEARS. That money is GONE folks. $5000 recovered and that's it. And notice how they don't think it's a big deal. Well, regular folks like us think that's a lot of money. Maybe it's time for the regular folks to throw all these Republican clowns out.
DeleteYou have to wonder.. how much more of our money did the Republicans lose that we don't even know about yet? They are obviously incapable of competent oversight of county funds.
Hey 4:54, how much of that $300,000 was actually spent? How much did the taxpayers lose?
DeleteI'll help you. ZERO.
Fondly,
dufus
Dufus, why don't you tell us again how Lou caught it right away? And while we're on the subject of taxpayers losing money why not read the minutes of Lou's LDC team. Pete Ryan, Dunne and Kenny (Putin)Z losing money like true dems.
DeleteHey dufus...the library list out, the City actually owed them money from a vote that was passed to increase what the received....they were already shorted money and now the City says "oh we will just make this a wash" not real accounting
DeleteNot to worry about the in-fighting. You are dens. You steal vote, run candidates with multipile felonies,have sitting councilmen under indictment, steal hud money,shut down roads for months at a time, tear down buildings illegally, lie about anything and everything - and still win. Stop your F-in whining
ReplyDeleteIf 5:33 statement alleging reasons to not vote for Democrats yet they "still win", doens't that bring a conclusion about Dem leadership's ability to elect candidates ?
Deleteat 5:33 PM
DeleteYou must be talking about mirch when you're saying
"You steal votes, run candidates with multipile felonies (Kevin Gervasio), steal hud money, lie about anything and everything".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05vy7GV5Aik
Rent on the fifth floor four years 30,000 X 48 = 1,440,000
ReplyDeleteElect and insurance 144,000
Total 1,584,000
at 4:53 AM
ReplyDeleteRent + TAXES (the City shouldn't be paying taxes) on 1776 6th = $40,000 a month for a full year when we couldn't use the building (no elevator), a building that Troy owned due to reverter clause $480,000 + $1.5 million in upgrade costs to Troy = $1,980,000 for first years "rent"! Due to a poorly written "lease" rent went up to $70,000 a month. So, who do you think screwed us harder?
Bully bill dunne must get updates of the blog on his iPhone. Or he has nothing better to do than troll the blogs
Delete...and the City won the lawsuit thanks to Harry. $365,000 plus interest. More bad math and bad information from the Delusional Bunch that meets at Manory's every Saturday morning.
DeleteGee, who would have ever thought? More dribble out of the mouth of one of Harrys several stooges.
Delete365,000 is chump change...that money easily left the City in a few lawsuits with a crooked city being run by crooked idiots
DeleteWhere, specifically?
Delete365K is chump change? More than a 1 and a half tax increase on the city's shrinking property owners. I can tell why you're familiar with the word "chump".
Delete365,000 pays for about three-four city of troy employees salaries that don't even live in the city....so yeah ...chump change...because I too am a tax payer and no one has the balls to address the residency issue except for the little guys
DeleteTo find out specifically go to the City of Troy website and read up on the minutes and meetings....
DeleteJune 13, 2014 at 6:12 PM Question how much money are we getting for the property @ old demolished city hall site cash wise
ReplyDeleteHow much in taxes will the people who are buying said property be paying over a 10 year period
Where's your answer fungus? Whoops...dufus.....fungus....same thing...your an annoying and won't go away
ReplyDeleteDon't know what you want me to answer? If it makes you feel better to point the finger at the county government and rail about wasted money so be it. Frankly there is wasteful spending and hack jobs. Yet to ignore the fact that an incompetent, corrupt democratic administration is ruining this city is well....delusional. Hope you clear up that fungus but I doubt you'll ever be much more than a dufus!
DeleteI'm not pointing a finger at the county but if the county has no say in the City's finances then it shouldn't have any say in our politics unless your going to do good by us...I am a democrat and I am extremely upset on how things are run...this isn't someone's personal business here..you are NOT the ONLY ones who have collateral/stock put into the city...we the taxpayers do as well or do we not count until it comes to election time when you do nothing but suck up to us...
DeleteWhere's your answer fungus? Whoops...dufus.....fungus....same thing...your an annoying and won't go away
ReplyDeleteAnd where is the sheriff during all of This nonsense? Sleeping under an overpass, perchance?...Calvin Spaulding.
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