Sunday, January 26, 2014

Police were prepared for problems at Kokopellis


FILE PHOTO OF COMMAND CENTER
On Friday night, hours before the riot broke out at Kokopellis, police had its Mobile Command Center set up on Fourth Street and had four extra patrolmen on duty, according to two sources whose information was confirmed by Capt. John Cooney.

The precautions, in place at 10 p.m. Friday, were on the count of police expecting a "large gathering" at the bar," said Cooney, the department spokesman. 
The question then becomes, if police were expecting problems, how did the situation deteriorate to the point where six officers ended up in Samaritan Hospital?
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OF DONLEY
Cooney said the command center and additional officers were outside when the call came in at approximately 2:45 a.m. Saturday about one of the bar’s employees being assaulted - but not inside the establishment. More than 200 people, and some say upwards towards 350, were attending a memorial service for Darzee Reid, a Troy man who was shot to death in Albany on April 18, 2013 by Leonard Spencer.
According to police, some officers went inside where they were punched, jumped on, had bottles thrown at them, sprayed with pepper spray and at one point a patron sprayed a fire extinguisher. Outside, someone threw a garbage can through the window of a police cruiser and other police agencies were called in to assist.
According to Channel 13, the bar’s owner, Dr. Barry Glick, claims the crowd was civil until police entered and tried to arrest 25-year-old Roshawon Donley for assaulting the employee. A video taken from surveillance cameras inside the bar, and televised by Channel 13, seems to back up Glick’s claim that all hell broke loose after the officers entered and the fire extinguisher was sprayed into the crowd.
It’s shortly after that, according to Channel 13’s account of what transpired, the explosive video shot by someone using a cell phone picks up the action. That 44-second clip can be seen below.


In all, five other people were placed under arrest but at the time of this writing none of them were charged with assault – which is why the police were initially called - or any drug related offense. The alleged assault on the employee reportedly occurred when he tried to stop patrons from smoking pot.
Other questions that no one seems to have an answer to:
-Again, how did police allow the situation get so far out of control if they were expecting problems? Was it the commanding officer at the time or the guys in the field who screwed up? I don’t say that lightly, but when six officers end up in the hospital, someone screwed something up.
-Cooney is quoted as saying police used appropriate force while arresting Donley, but how do they explain the 44-second video clip? Also, how did Donely get the black eyes if appropriate force allows officers to hit a suspect in the body’s larger muscles but not the head? I’m told the injuries seen in the video came during the alleged fight with the employee but who knows?
-Why isn’t the fact everyone carries a cell phone, and every cell phone can take a video taught at the police academy?
-Will the administration and/or Council, stand by the cops involved or throw them to the wolves? At this point in time I would be surprised, and disappointed, if they didn’t back up the officers pending a thorough investigation.  
-I did reach out to Donley’s cousin in the hopes of talking to him and the cousin, who goes by the Facebook name of Quanto Quanloo, told me Donley isn’t talking until he confers with an attorney. The next logical question is how much is the civil suit going to be worth?
-How bad will race relations get in Troy? There are already a number of inflammatory comments on Facebook, some of which have been taken down? I don’t think race had anything to do with it but anyone want in on a pool guessing when Rev. Willie Bacote will hold a “march for peace?” There is a rally slated for 6 p.m. Monday in front of the Missing Link Zion Church at 101st Street and Fifth Avenue.


62 comments:

  1. Willy & Rodney will hold hands and sing, 'We Shall Overcome' together. There will also be Peace Buttons sold at Willy-Mart. Buy one, get one free roll of 2 ply TP

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    1. You are a racist pig

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    2. willy is a pillar of the community. LOL!

      http://moralcompassblog.com/2013/04/20/pastor-in-workmans-comp-fraud-gets-off-easy/

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  2. Over 50% of city budget goes into public safety and this is what we get? Good thing we got that police commissioner, its working out great!

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  3. Mark, please, please come back.

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  4. Are we at the cliff yet says Nero

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  5. Cops were in the mobile command center eating pizza and Vecino ice cream stolen from city hall. This story gets worse by the minute. Anyone hear from Lou? Willie is meeting at his church Monday at 6.

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  6. Another reason why TPD needs to be turned back over to Chief Tedesco!

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    1. Please tell me how Tedesco would of prevented this?

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    2. He couldn't, however, he would have responded to the situation publicly instead of running home for supper like Magnetto did. The Mayor hasn't even spoken publicly (nor has Magnetto) and Tedesco has at least done that much!

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  7. Hopefully The FBI takes a big bite out of this CRIME

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    1. Related to robocop bill chamberlain solid waste coordinator wanna be cop?

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  8. Shootings on a nightly basis. Unruly crowds. Kokopelis. And b dunne is worried that city floor employees enjoyed ice cream and he didn't get to.

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  9. We give it under a month before b dunne is in Lou's office trying to get Monica fired. Things are becoming heated. She steps all over him and he don't like that. He wants to be center of attention the light if Lou's eye. The eater of the ice cream. Don't cross him he's a big deal.

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  10. the guy at the brown bag looks like a prophet right now.

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  11. How did the police let this get out of hand? Simple, they didn't. The bar owner did. The police got called because it was out of hand already. The bar owner did not have staff sufficient for the crowd. This had nothing to do with whose mayor or in charge of TPD. This is all on the owner.

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  12. Magnetto has turned Troy into the wild wild west!

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  13. If this man was white would Willie even care? Brian Houle and Brian Fogarty are both white, and you heard NOTHING from Willie at all. He only becomes outraged and claims racism when it suits his agenda. I'm white and I bleed red, just like any other human being on this earth. If I was gunned down in the street would he march for me? The answer is, no, he wouldn't, why? Why is it any different just because of the color of my skin? That is racism against me and against white people. He doesn't practice what he preaches and he is teaching people of color that we are against them and that is not true. Racism against white people exists.

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    1. Ur right but racism will always b an issue.

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    2. willy makes his living off race baiting. He doesn't want the racism to ever end because if it did, he would no longer be relevant and have nothing to get in the news about. Unless, he gets caught defrauding workers comp insurance again! LOL! Willy is a scammer through and through,

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  14. March for Peace? typo (assuming the question mark is a typo) is LOL

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    1. No not a typo. Willie would not have a march for peace or anything if it was a white person gunned down in the street. Just pointing that out, if you are really trying to advance people of color than you need to embrace everyone. This incident was NOT about race and the race card needs to be left out of it. It is only a smokescreen to cover the real issues. Kokopelli's is a bar known for trouble, the man in question assaulted a bouncer because he asked him to stop smoking pot. No one is talking about that and there was stuff that went on outside of the bar. Garbage can got thrown and bottles, of course the officers are going to show more force. Willie just needs to go away, he isn't helping people of color with his cries of racism. All he is doing is being racist against white people and that is what you call a hypocrite!

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    2. Willie is a fraud how a u going to sell peace buttons.

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  15. Ur right but racism will always exist.

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  16. this is the biggest story in the capitol region......it's in it's third day and what is "THE RECORD" reporting on ....the telethon! people probably never thought we would miss Franco!

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    1. the record is a joke. The only thing worth reading there is the "sound off" column.

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  17. wasn't willie supposed to go to South Carolina ?? let me guess he is gonna march his way there..

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  18. The solution to this entire problem is to place Chief Tedesco back in charge of the PD.Dont blame the police when they have no one in charge. Two years ago many predicted that this would happen.Lou better learn that he must have competent people in charge or his last two years of office will be a disaster.

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    1. Has NOTHING to do with who is in charge of the TPD, it has to do with the clientele at this establishment acting like animals and putting our police officers and the public in danger. This incident is not political. It's not racial. It is about scumbags behaving like scumbags and because of that 6 of our officers were hurt. Throw your blame where it belongs, the BAR OWNER and his dirtbag clientele.. Catering and advertising to this ilk and expecting TPD to make it alright. Then when they do call it excessive to save his own ass. SLA won't appreciate the police calls and the drugs being used on premises. And the bar owner knows that.

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    2. Sure, I'll blame the bar owner and the dirtbag clientele. Like I'll blame the gunman after a shootout, the thief after a burglary, and the killer after a murder. So what? We pay these cops pretty good money to handle EXACTLY these situations and deal with these criminals. That's their job! This whining about "oh it was so dangerous" is a bunch of BS. They knew there was potential for riots and violence that night. They're trained to prepare for this and they had time to get ready. And then they blew it.

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    3. 6 arrests and all officers home safely. They did their jobs and did it well. And if you think they are paid well for the risk they take you are sadly mistaken. Whining about it's so dangerous? Get up and strap on their boots and walk in those shoes daily, see how easy it is. You would run like a little girl if faced with a tenth of what these guys deal with on the daily. Respect. They HAVE earned it. The problem is most of the parents of the ilk involved failed to teach it at home. And the police are forced to.

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  19. Jim -you should have chosen another photo. This one has Mark McGrath wearing 'jorts'. Kids read this you know. So do it for the kids --the kids --the kids

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    1. Mark is so dreamy he can wear anything and look good. Who cares if he has a short tongue and won't take off his shirt for Facebook. He'll always be the King of Lansingburgh

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    2. He's well insulated in the Winter. And yes -- he is a dreamboat. Bullshit aside --he would be having a press picnic right now if he were still in office

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  20. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with Magnetto. Don't these cops know how to handle crowds? Aren't they trained in riot control? What was their "command center" supposed to do? They knew what they were going into, yet a melee ensues, they start beating people, and six of Troy's finest wind up in the hospital. Pathetic. Not only is it a total embarrassment to Troy, it's going to cost us a fortune in lawsuits.

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  21. There's a pattern developing in Troy, voter fraud, Houle, Fogarty, civil rights are routinely violated and city and political leaders don't condemn it they defend it. Time for the feds to come to Troy.

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  22. Our special report tonight hightops Sheeran has lost his pop rocks. Someone in city hall must have stolen them call in the troops. It must have been the engineer. He wins every time

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  23. Rodney calling for an investigation of the pd. how bout an investigation in to why he thinks because he is a council person he can just go to the salt shed and fill up pails of sand salt mix. I have a water runoff problem too. Can I have some sand salt mix. I'm a taxpayer. Really. Why does he think he's above others?

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    1. seriously, he does this? Get pics and get that info out there. That's ridiculous.

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  24. Tedesco will do nothing but ruin the department even more than he already has. Bring Kaiser back.
    As far as the bar owner goes - he started out with a very nice establishment. A classy place with top shelf stuff, turned into weekly hip hop parties. Well, when you cater to animals, don't be surprised when your place turns into a zoo.

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  25. Three years in and Lou and Pete still look like gutless fools. The good Dr. Glick showed up at Willie's meeting and apologized for the actions of the police. He runs a respectable business and is distressed by the TPD's actions. Was Jandali's place less respectable? Why was he targeted? Why was he shut down? Same crowd, same problems, was he a republican?

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    1. The crowd that these hip hop bars cater to is the same crowd of people who are keeping the city of Troy in the gutter... with all the drug sales, drug use and stealing to get money to buy drugs. Black people and drugs. The 2 main problems with Troy.

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  26. The last thing we want is Fitzgerald defending these HONEST and hardworking cops. Do us all a favor and stick to feeding Lou his soup and trading videos with your main man Rosney.

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  27. Deputy mayor Ryan steamed all day and promised that Kokopellis will be shut down. Well, considering he squirts like a bitch while ignoring the illegal Cox property across from the Snowman the Koko club will continue to cause problems. Lou, when you wake from your nap..."THIS IS TROY" and you let it happen.

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  28. Three very embarrassing days for this nice guy administration. No response for days. A press conference scheduled then cancelled hours later. A statement written by a flack that says nothing other that "This isn't Troy". Doesn't address the racial tension that is boiling in the City.

    This isn't Troy. The Troy we know and love had balls. That Troy would address issues like this head on. Now the minority community is left looking for answers and the cops are wondering if the elected officials support them. Tougher days ahead.

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  29. "Pastor" Willie is a racist himself. Where was the outrage when Brian Houle made his allegations, where was the outrage over the Fogarty allegations. The difference they are white. The "Pastor" is a bonafide racist! He has lied to community members, he has cheated and stolen from workman's comp, he took goods from the food pantry and sold them and double dipped at the food pantry's. He is the cause of racism in Troy.

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    1. agreed. I think most people with 1/2 a brain know this though.

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  30. I truly thought Lou and Pete would start to look more like leaders with the emergence of Rodney and Buffoon Bob. Well, after the "this isn't Troy" quote and the cancelled press conference I thought wrong.

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  31. Its a sad day when the pastor starts issuing ultimatiums with the or else at the end.

    To everyone who was bad mouthing the chief and kicking him in the nuts, hopefully now you see the error of your ways. It seems he is the only guy to step up and actually provide some leadership to resolve this incident.

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    1. Teddy is only trying to gain some support. Nobody buys you crap Teddy

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    2. We can see by what is going on "your way" aint working.

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    3. Just how much are the chief's own words going to cost the officers involved in this? Don't think for a second Keach isn't watering at the mouth and printing out newspaper clippings, cause he is. The city will wind up having to settle (even when the officers are found to have used necessary force) because of those words. Save your praises, they aren't worthy. He's just playing politics, his officers and the taxpayers will pay the price. After all, he is suing the city too. Thanks a lot Chief.

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  32. We have a mayor, a deputy mayor, a commissioner of police and a deputy commissioner of police and the only man looking out for the police officers, the community and the taxpayers is the guy everyone has been bashing for the last year and a half. Some people ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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    1. thanks for your comment Teddy

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    2. Run anybody over lately?

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  33. As time goes on the truth emerges, the reason for no response from the mayor on Saturday and Sunday is we all know Lou went to the hockey game Saturday night. What no one has said is he was with Fitzerald and Peter Ryan. He got his orders and directions from Fitz at the game. Deputy mayor Ryan was in no shape to lead and there was no meeting on Sunday for the Dep. Mayor was under the weather.

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  34. not to change the subject but has anyone else noticed how filthy the streets are?

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    1. yes, the blood of the non believers is everywhere.. well at least on 4th

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    2. Folks in the ghetto are taught that it's OK to litter.

      Just drop that litter right there on the street. Someone else will come by and pick it up. That's what the sweeper trucks are for. They's ta clean up afters us.

      Theey are the entitled segment of society.

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  35. HUM so they had a large black crowd at a private party and thought they needed to set up a mobile Command center and then caused a riot. ya thats not all fishy or raciest. gee how could any one even think that lol lol and of course all those saying the cops are good and just beat up some coons and "ni&#$s arent racists either. Gosh were could any one even get that idea from I wonder.

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