Wednesday, March 19, 2014

The cost of public information: $2,500


MANTELLO
Turns out former Troy Council candidate Carmella Mantello can get an electronic copy of last fall’s election – for a paltry sum of $2,500.
(A letter from the Rensselaer County BOE commissioners to Mantello, and a letter from Mantello to County Executive Kathy Jimino can be seen below)
According to a letter signed by Rensselaer County Board of Elections Commissioners Ed McDonough and Larry Bugbee, the data Mantello requested from the nail-biter of an election was handed over to a vendor, Dominion Voting, which provided technical support to the BOE.
“This presents you with two options to access the information you requested: Retrieval of the electronic data via the county’s BOE technology support vendor, or obtaining the legally required court order, with no opposition from the county BOE, to allow for review of the paper ballots,” said the letter from the BOE.
According to the invoice from Dominion, the process to extract the images is “complicated” and would take 10 hours at $250 an hour.
Why the BOE did not keep a copy of the images, as Mantello said the 2010 Help America Vote Act requires, is anyone’s guess. And why it would take 10 hours at $250 an hour to burn the images on a CD is another guess. Seems to me - and the Times Union editorial writers - the information should not only be readily available at the BOE, but made available on its website to save people the trip should they want to look at the results.
MCDONOUGH and BUGBEE
Mantello, who came up short in her bid for an At Large Council seat by 65 votes, has been rattling trees from local officials to the state Attorney General. She recently received an opinion from Bob Freeman, executive director of the state Committee on Open Government, which backed up her claim the electronic ballot images should be a public document. I’m not an attorney, but that seems like a no-brainer to me.
“The Board has an obligation to maintain these images so they are readily accessible for any member of the public, and not create the situation where it would cost an individual some $2,500 for this information,” Mantello wrote to County Executive Kathy Jimino. “This is clearly an attempt to hide this information from the public and not have the information readily available. “It would appear that there's an ongoing conspiracy at the County Board of Elections to conceal public information which should not be allowed to continue any further.”

The BOE in Putnam County was withholding similar information from a candidate down there but ended up giving it up as required by law.
As I previously wrote, I can see McDonough giving Mantello a hard time since he’s a Democrat and well, that’s just the way the game is played sometimes. But Bugbee – a Republican who Mantello states testified in court against allowing her to see the paper ballots – should help out a member of his own party despite who likes her or who doesn’t.
Another question that comes to mind is what is the BOE hiding and why don't they want Mantello to see the ballots?


 
Dear County Executive Jimino, 
 
I received an email from you today, dated March 18, 2014, stating that 
you just spoke with the Chairman of the Legislature, Martin Reid, who informed you that the Board of Elections provided the information I was seeking in electronic format last week. 
 
Unfortunately, the information you were provided by the Chairman of the 
Legislature is incorrect. 
 
Subsequent to your email, I contacted Larry Bugbee, Republican Commissioner of Elections at the Rensselaer County Board. Per my request, Commissioner Bugbee emailed me the attached correspondence dated March 14, 2014 since it was only hard copy mailed. It is quite clear in the attached letter that the Rensselaer County Board of Elections has not provided me a copy of the electronic ballot images. 
 
I'm sure you are aware since 2010 the Help America Vote Act requires Boards of Elections to keep the digital images and a backup of these images as a record in any given election. Robert Freeman, Exec Director of the Comm on Open Government, has rendered an opinion that these images are available under a FOIL. It should be noted that I have been constructively denied this information for several months. 
Upon reading the letter I received today from the County Board of Elections it is obvious they continue to stonewall my efforts to receive the digital images which should be made available to me forthwith under the FOIL. 
 
The Board has an obligation to maintain these images so they are readily 
accessible for any member of the public, and not create the situation where it would cost an individual some $2500 for this information. This is clearly an attempt to hide this information from the public and not have the information readily available. I would submit county officials comply with the law, have it readily available, and send me the information request immediately as other counties, such as Putnam County recently did. It would appear that there's an ongoing conspiracy at the County Board of Elections to conceal public information which should not be allowed to continue any further. 
 
It should also be noted that Commissioner Bugbee gives the impression that my 
representative was given the opportunity to review any and all paper ballots. 
The only review of any paper ballots was during a random audit of 2 election 
districts and not a review of all paper ballots. In fact my request for review of all the paper ballots has been continually denied. In the correspondence Mr. Bugbee now states the board would not oppose a court ordered recount of the paper ballots. However, when I went to court and sought a recount in November, prior to the results being certified, Mr. Bugbee testified in opposition to my efforts. 
 

Carmella Mantello 

29 comments:

  1. This county, and city are in the dark ages. Its disgraceful how these people treat citizens. Why in the world do they hire a service to count the votes? And Carmella is 100% right in her questioning of this madness. The county doesn't have records? Unbelievable that everyday in this county the same garbage goes on, corruption at its finest!

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  2. government needs to comply with the law period.

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  3. She should use that cash to have those toofs filed down.

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    1. Is Toof in the Urban Dictionary?

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    2. And you're probably an old fat troll who never leaves the house.

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    3. Does racism have to be brought into everything? Shame on yoo.

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  4. Totally full of crap. Those two morons at the BOE need to go and failure to comply to FOIL charges need to be brought up against them. Those copies should have been maintained at the BOE as per the LAW and give the requester the option of viewing them for free at the BOE or for a copy fee send copies. I had a 2500 page report I FOILed and it was $25 for paper copies or $7 for a CD. A complete circus over there. Fact is almost all of Rensco, Troy and the State are incapable of understanding FOIL and complying.

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    1. To be fair, a charge for FOIL requests is necessary. There are a ton of them and they take considerable time to process properly. That is a lot of man hours in a budget, especially when the individual tasked with providing the information has other duties.

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    2. $2500 to save images to a flash drive is absurd. If our "technology support vendor" can't do something this simple, why are they our technology support vendor at all? And who in God's name pays $250/hr for tech support anyway... are they a relative of Rich Crist? Another incidence of wasteful spending by the Republican controlled county government.

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  5. Unbelievale another problem in Renss. County and the board of elections. Is there any one in charge there.

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    1. Yes someone is in charge the same folks who engineered voter fraud.

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    2. Kathy needs the $2500 for the Jack Mahar legal defense fund.

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  6. She's unreal. Will never get elected to anything. She should try one of those church board elections like Conroy did --didn't work out well for him though. Lost by a 5-4 vote.Just go away Carmella

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  7. See where the Troy cops are looking for a guy involved in kiddy porn......wonder if they called Officer Rosney!

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  8. Why does a city hall park in half hour parking and also leaves half hour early each day. Lou look into this. Kevin can't save her anymore

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    1. She drives from her house to snowmans

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    2. How many times a day?

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    3. Is large still a bball coach?

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    4. He does it for the whales

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    5. LOL 10:28. Well we know it isn't for the kids

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  9. Because she's in engineering

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  10. This is all a deal/plan of Wade using Mantello to embarrass Ed McDonough then Wade can replace him at the board. In the spirit of openness and sunshine maybe Mantello can reveal her relationship with Wade.

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    1. Who cares? This must be Premo, with all these dumbass conspiracies. If Carmella is legally entitled to the ballots then she's entitled to them, period. The county looks stupid trying to stall her. But it wouldn't be the first time they all look stupid, as we know.

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    2. SPOT ON 12:52 PM with the unending Premo conspiracies. Wade supports McDonough and anyone who goes to Democratic Party meetings can attest to it. Only McDonough's politically clueless lawyer could contrive a stupid plan like 11:24 cited above.

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  11. I wish Carmella won any one is better than Lynn Kokpa and we all know that Erin will do what Lynn tells her to do so we will all watch Erin follow not lead any thing she is just window dressing.

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  12. I agree 5:10, but all she's doing is making herself really look like an ass. Being she's never done one positive thing for this city, I really don't understand why she thinks she can be a savior. She's only trying to stay in the government retirement system --and everyone knows it

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    1. OK 12:29 Point taken.
      I have watched this Erin look like a deer in the headlights too many times she is of no value to Troys Problems.
      Erin will vote no for Wades people and Kokpa has really turned into a Patterson Puppit that guy has vary bad vibrations he is clearley a Drunk and an over stuffed pig.
      So whos left with any braincells what do you think?

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    2. Also these Conroy Clowns are not good for Troys Problems.
      This Clan just wants to milk the program.

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