Friday, September 5, 2014

Video contradicts PBA president's statement


ROBERTSON
After watching the nearly10-minute video of the incident on Aug. 30 involving Councilwoman Anastasia Robertson, D-District 2, I have to say Police Benevolent Association President Tom Hoffman was given bad information, greatly exaggerated the story or outright lied to the Council.
At Thursday’s Council meeting, he called out Robertson for trying to bait police into a physical confrontation while officers were investigating a disturbance in North Central.
As Hoffman tells it, two cops heard a disturbance near Fifth Avenue and 101st Street at around 5 p.m. – people yelling and what not. When they arrived they found two women in a fight or just ending one. One woman took off, she was white. The other stayed around, she was black.
A crowd gathered and the officers called for backup. There were six police cars at the scene. Among the crowd that gathered was Robertson and she did indeed have a cell phone and was taking video.
That’s pretty much the end what Hoffman said that is backed up by the video Robertson provided Channel 6 news. You would think, after being told there were people videotaping, he would have fact checked his story before he told it … or maybe even looked at some of the video.
Hoffman said the officers were spit on and were being prodded into getting physical with the residents – many of whom were black – while attempting to capture it all on video. A member of the crowd was Robertson, he said, and pointed her out as one of the antagonists.
Councilwoman Robertson assisted and incited and encouraged public unrest and anti-police sentiment, all while not knowing all the facts of the case,” Hoffman told the Council in dramatic fashion. “Councilwoman Robertson was unethical, unprofessional and acted in a manner detrimental to her position on the city council and to the residents of this city. You can’t talk about public safety and aid in public unrest.”
Spend 10 minutes and watch the video by clicking here. As near as I can tell, there was some tension and the situation could have gotten out of hand but neither side crossed the line as the black women told officers she and her domestic partner had had a fight. There was one cop kind of being a jerk and one in the crowd too … there are jerks all over the place and they are the ones who usually cause all the problems.
Anyway, on the video you hear what sounds like Robertson’s voice telling people to “calm down” and “don’t make it worse.”
Robertson, who left the chamber as Hoffman was giving his speech, didn’t want to comment but said she will at a later time. She did tell the reporter nothing of consequence happened off camera and what she provided was what transpired. She didn't say why she was videotaping.
It was a rough week for Robertson. Before Hoffman spoke on Thursday, she addressed the crowd regarding comments she made on Facebook about the race riot happening in Ferguson, Missouri. On one of the posts she spelled America, “AmeriKKKa” and said there is an orchestrated effort by whites to exterminate blacks.
There is racism and there will be racism as long as there are bigoted, narrow-minded people – back and white. Racism goes both ways. I’m guessing, though, the vast majority of people are not racist. Like anything, it’s the fringe thinkers on both sides who cause all the trouble.
 

59 comments:

  1. From what I see, the TPD did a great job. There was a crowd of people on a street corner in a zone where bullets have been flying and killing people. Robertson is clearly trying to pit black against white with her rhetoric, stirring up a bees nest to get her re-elected. Again hats off to the TPD.

    One person said the "perpetrator gets away". Well then tell the police who the perpetrator was. Then they can arrest her, it's that simple. Stop blaming the police.

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  2. No doubt the crowd was hostile and they threw the race card in without good reason. But someone needs to find out why the police felt the need to stay on the scene that long and let the situation escalate. Once it was determined to be a domestic violence incident, the Officers should have spoke with the potential victim, asked her to get someone she trusted to accompany her and then remove her from the scene for a private interview and report if necessary. There was no active disturbance; the police could have been in and out in less than two minutes and the victim would have gotten the privacy she deserved. Where was the Supervisor; where is the leadership?

    Ms. Robertson is trying to prove a point by releasing the video, but does the victim on a DV call deserve to be the center of attention in a political debate? This could have been handled so much better by the police and the Councilperson.

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  3. She is an ignorant moron. Asking why there is 7 police cars? Honey take a look around. The 2 police officers on scene were largely out numbered by a group of unknown what was going on. All officers acted very professional. This is a case of people need to mind there own business and not get involved. This has NOTHING to do with race!!!! People always use the race card and that my friend is racist!!!! Take responsibility for your own actions

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  4. Just had another thought...She had her laptop AT the meeting. If she had the video, why did she not elect to show it, but instead, she and Boy Friday (the Rev. Timmy ), opted to skedaddle out of there and phone the reporter from Stewart's, who just happened to get there in ten minutes, to show it on the news?? If I had proof of my innocence, I'd be whipping it out right there!! Things that make you go hmmmmmmm... 2 mins · Like

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    1. Its tough when you look like an idiot on social media and then bring it here anonymously. (Nancy) I am thrilled at how ignorant NLNW looks now. showing their racist colors! It seems to me Ms. Robertson was trying to act responsibly in the video and so were the police. Maybe the police have other video of the situation, we will see, but based on this video, Mr. Hoffman was misinformed.

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    2. NLNW and Jim Gordon are a joke and everyone knows the main members posting in that group seethe with hatred at anything and anyone who seems to be a Democrat. They're all about politics, not helping Lansingburgh.

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  5. The video is bullshit. It doesn't even show everything BEFORE the fucking cameras were rolling. There were AT LEAST 100 people...not all from the festival, but for some reason when people hear sirens or see police they congregate. There were 2 POLICE OFFICERS first at the scene against 100 people. Put yourselves in their shoes. Outnumbered by people mostly screaming all at once, you don't fucking know why and everyone is too hysterical to form a complete comprehendible sentence. I was there. It was way worse than the video shows and even worse when the police left..

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  6. Let's keep this trashing issue on the table so that the real problems with in this city go unaddressed. What was written by Ms. Robertson was not posted on facebook, but on a site that most people in this city aren't even aware of. What Ms. Robertson wrote is her personal opinion which like Anonymous here on this site likes to post. Police all over this country need to realize the public will be video tapeing their actions and how they actually Police all the citizens. What we need to remember is that a policeman or woman are human, not demigods, they make mistakes, they lie and sometimes they are just wrong in their preceptions. Ms, Robertson didn't make a statement at the meeting is true, I doubt that it would have made a difference because people already had their minds made up. It's time to put this non-issue to bed and move on. I'm sure there aren't going to be any apologies and it won't change what was said or what is done. Troy has larger issues than some post on a website. Shooting's murders, arson seem more important in the bigger picture.

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  7. I think the video shows everyone in a pretty good light. It does not excuse Robertson's blog comments or is it grounds for Hoffman's. What everyone needs to do is focus on solving the problems, not fanning the flames. The good in our community far outweighs the bad. People have to work together.

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  8. "Greatly exaggerated"? A large angry crowd screaming at the officers? The officers knew they wouldn't be attacked? Maybe Mr. Franco should attend the academy to learn procedure when in this precarious situation. That corner is the epicenter for social and racial unrest due to the Media sanctuary and Willie Bacote, working in tandem. Willie now gone (with some reward money in his pocket) is now replaced by a host of street reverends who seem to pop up with no jobs, no means of support and ask the poor community or the city for funds. It's a great country AmeriKKKa.

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  9. what exactly was her resoning for making a video of this?? I saw nothing in the wrong doing by the police officers but showing up to a call...I's sure they called for back up because its like the wild west in that area and 2 cops against 50 people is not a a good scene and I'm sure scary! If that many cops werent there they would have a problem with that saying cause there black they didnt care about them..some people you can never make happy!!

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  10. The tall white cop was scared and escalating things by yelling.

    Blocking the road encourages people to stand around in it - then they get yelled at.

    The old time cops would have breezed in , taken control and filed a report.

    Treat people like you want to be treated.

    There was no need for more than 2 cops at this. If they had only taken control this would have been just another domestic case.

    Someone better step up and train these cops on how to diffuse issues and deal with people in crisis.

    Pretty basic stuff we are looking at here.

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    1. And the old time cops were policing in a different time. What you don't realize is The Sanctuary is a group of highly educated shit stirrers who do nothing but scan the web for 'social injustices' to rally up black communities. Look at their website just once and you'll see. They were waiting for this area to explode so they could gather the masses and whip out those cell phones in hopes of a chance for another lawsuit or some tasty footage to exploit on their website.

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  11. Hey Anonymous, 1st the video IS NOT BULLSHIT. It shows how the TPD can spin a story of events and hang someone. As was with Mr. Hoffman's speech at the meeting. What happened before the incident, was the event in Freedom Park. I know I was there. I watched the video several times. and it clearly doesn't show what Hoffman was saying.
    I also know Ms. Robertson personally. DO YOU? We have seem to focus on the happened before the Hoffman speech and we are all entitled to our opinions. good bad or indifferent. Remember she is a Human 1st and a council member 2nd. She has a life just like you.
    And as far as these so called HERO TPD. Stop praising them so much. most of the are part of the problem. they only listen to what they want. The police chief is the same way. yes there was 2 cops on the scene but that video doesn't show 100 people. maybe 20 if that. so stop the bullshit and trying to exaggerate things.
    And if you were there was doesn't it show that????
    maybe you need to take another look at the video again. She was trying to calm people down. what were you doing to stop things????? I was in the park and I left before the incident.

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    1. First of all Robert, reading your incoherent 2nd grade level babbling gave me a headache.
      Second, I'll try to answer your questions (at least the ones I can decipher) so please pay careful attention.
      1) I live next door to Freedom Square. I saw EVERYTHING.
      2) I didn't say the 100 people came from the event. Read my post again SLOWLY.
      3) You admit you left BEFORE the incident. I didn't. I continued to live next door.
      4) I didn't do anything to stop things because I wasn't involved in any way, shape or form so there was no need for me to join the melee.

      Now, as you say, we are all entitled to our opinions. Mine is one of there being too many people trying to tell 2 police officers what was going on and not being satisfied that the white perpetrator was not pounced on immediately when they DIDN'T KNOW WHO EITHER MEMBER OF THE VIOLENCE WAS. I didn't see one cell phone video of the incident that happened, one video of people running to the scene before the police arrived, one video of the police cars pulling up. Everything was filmed AFTER the police were already there being bombarded with misinformation coming from a 360' radius.

      Sugar coat your sob story any way you feel fit but wipe your snots on your sleeve because you're not getting a tissue from me.

      As for Doris Day, I know what The Grio is. It's an all black section of MSN as opposed to the all white section. Oh wait, there is no all white section. That would be racist.

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    2. Robert. U mean rev Timmy ?

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  12. I agree with Doris Day. What was posted on that site, is of little importance. Troy has a PBA member that openly lied in a council meeting that was broadcasted live.
    Then that night after the meeting there was shots fired. I don't see how TPD is making a difference. We all need to come together and take back our streets. Whether you are in the Burgh, in the south, central, or up on one of the hills.
    We need to elected a council that will enforce the city to deal with these problems of absentee landlords and slumlords. Lets bring back the Troy of old days when you knew your neighbor.
    Its trash day so let's put out the trash. and not make room for more.

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    1. You start your statement by ripping the cops and then you become a uniter. Your just another racist white person.

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    2. I was referring to the citizens coming together not the TPD. and yes I do think TPD needs to be looked. that doesn't make me a RACIST.
      People like you are destroying the good in the world. and How do you know I'm white??? Your the one hiding behind Anonymous!!!!!! like a coward!!!!!!!
      maybe you are part of the trash we need to throw out.

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    3. If you must be a racist as well. if you know for a Fact that I am white. So why do you post your name COWARD!!!!!!!!!

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    4. Robert here is what you stated "We need to elected a council that will enforce the city to deal with these problems of absentee landlords and slumlords". Why don't you and your river rat family clean up that eyesore on 112 TH street? That will be Lou's waterLOU.

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  13. another person shot in troy last night

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    1. What else is new? Hey Jim Gordon... gonna SAVE US? Why did we elect you??

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    2. Gordon is a disaster, tedesco is a disaster, this whack councilwoman is a disaster, and the mayor is a disaster - all my tax payer dollars down the drain.

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    3. Jim Gordon? Shit...we should strap a cape onto this 'Robert' guy and make him the new Troy hero. He seems to know all the answers. Can't write a sentence to save his fucking ass but he seems to know how to clean up the streets and rid the city of crime. We could call him Retarded Batman.

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    4. The sad thing is, most of us would elect him over Jim Gordon at this point.

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  14. Franco-when you telling your boy Tedesco to come up with a better plan to address crime after two more shootings in the past three days.

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    1. Haha yeah, his big master plan of "20 more cops" is really working. What a joke he is.

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    2. Yeah, that chief is a failure. Fortunately we have a mayor and deputy mayor who will save Troy from this scourge. They are in charge right? Right? Right? hello?

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    3. Don't worry about all the gunfire, peeps. Chief Tedesco says it's all HYSTERIA. Broadcasting live from his cushy home in Colonie.

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    5. How are the kids?

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    6. Take Back Troy will save us!!

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    7. People of take back Troy are already moving on up to greenbush

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  15. Sure the esteemed councilwomans words appear to be calling for calm on the video, but what about her actions? Put down the $@";:! Phone and actually do something to calm the situation. Sure you can hear her voice loud and clear on the video. But then again I'm sure the phone was being held directly in front of her face. There were plenty of other peoe videotaping. Put down the phone and DO SOMETHING Anastasia.

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    1. She must have done more than your lazy ass. And the video was not on the councilwoman. So go Try to be a real part of the solution to STOP THE VIOLENCE. RATHER THAN TEARING DOWN ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.

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  16. Why in 10 minutes did no command officer appear?

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  17. Anonymous.
    1st. I am a proud graduate.
    2nd If your not gonna do anything to help calm things down,since you CAN ONLY HIDE BEHIND AN ANONYMOUS NAME LIKE A COWARD. YOU MUST BE PART OF THE PROBLEMS HERE IN TROY. THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT MY RUNNY NOSE.
    GO BACK WATCH YOUR SOAP OPERAS!!!!!! AND LEAVE THE REST OF THE CITY ALONE.
    YOU MUST LIVE A MISERABLE LIFE!!!!!! CAUSE YOU ONLY KNOW HOW TO BITCH!!!!!.
    AND AS FOR ANASTASIA SHE IS DOING THE BEST SHE CAN. and i stand behind her 100%. we all have the FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!! God knows you VOICED yours.
    And I didn't SAY YOU SAID FROM THE EVENT!!!! SO TAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING ADVICE.
    THIS IS WHAT I SAID The police chief is the same way. yes there was 2 cops on the scene but that video doesn't show 100 people. maybe 20 if that.
    SO WHO IS THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO LEARN TO READ.
    WHY DONT SHUT THE TV OF AND THE INTERNET AND GO GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!!!!

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    1. Robert, I read this blog because there is more information here than we get in the local papers. With that said your hatred for some past elected officials seem to cloud your judgment. Or, you're truly off your rocker!

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    2. Excuse me Robert, I said there were 100 people at the melee BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTED ROLLING. You admitted you weren't there. You are going by what you saw in the video. I saw it all. People were enjoying themselves at Freedom Square until the squabble. People showed up from the corner store, the barber shop, the neighborhood, people pulled over in cars BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTED ROLLING. It took time for the folks with the cell phone videos to put down their hot dogs and drinks and run to the scene. There was a mass gathering already there BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTED ROLLING.

      One other thing Robert. You don't want to meet up with me so I choose to remain anonymous.

      So now WHY DONT SHUT THE TV OF AND THE INTERNET AND GO GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!!!!......or whatever that means.

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    3. I think that Robert is really french pronunciation for Rev Tim. As far as Anistasia go she is a lame duck an also ran. The people of district 2 can't wait to throw this race batter out on her ass. I think the people in the video are great and really show there real colors. When the white cameras from the news are being recorded they hold hands and pray and then when the black cameras are on them the real them comes out but I'm just a white guy so I'm no good.

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  18. What is that a picture of jim ?

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    1. Turlte from Mario brothers

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  19. Oh poor thing, take it out on the innocent white people. Yes, take it out on them!! Make them PAY and PAY and PAY for others sins! Yes SINS!! Anastasia better PRAY and PRAY for her SINS!! The devil! YES the DEVIL made her do it! You know that dirty devil is a racist himself, oh yes, oh yes!!! Mmmm MMmmm Mmmm to God be the GLORY save her from the DEVIL!! All these mean white people like to lie on Anastasia, Mmmm Mmmm Mmmmm!! Oh yes, oh yes, LET US PRAY!!!

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    1. ???? Does Robert have a twin?

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    2. Sure does, his partner Dave!

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  20. It seems the ones commenting on this post are from the group Take back Troy and are mad at the chief for not agreeing with them

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    1. 6:31--- I do believe you are right.

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    2. You mean members of "the team". Self-appointed and self-righteous, "leaders" don't need to tell people what to do. Instead of Stand Down! they need to Shut Up!

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    3. Bunch if criminals running that group...literally. Don't mess with the fat chick.

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    4. Let's reexamine the situation with bushnell binoculars

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    5. Poor Jim. Everyone finally realizing he and his sham political group don't do shit for the Burgh. No wonder hes beet red and flipping out at council meetings.

      One term wonder, gone in a Flash!

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    6. Jim Gordon talking about crime. Kevin McGrath committing crimes. Enough said.

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  21. The tips of his big floppy ears turn red then he gits figety in his seat
    He also covers his mouth with his cupped hands like his mommy Erin does

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  22. Jim is a wonderful person. All you haters, I bet you didn't know Jim was the Sausage King of Chicago during his college years. Give him a chance he's a leader. Next Mayor of Troy. You go Jim !!

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